Oh. I didn't even notice the Dr Pepper. ... Also... I did not know there was any correlation between Dr Pepper and gentoo. I stopped my Dr Pepper addiction 5 years before I used gentoo. ... I was on 4L a day for months, and didn't realise I had a problem until I drank 9L in 24hr.
+1 for "-1 for non Lenovo machine". [... unless it's like tuxedo or system76 or something like that or some pure custom job on a different architecture]
This is a random internet image for shitposts and giggles. I considered the face to be obscured enough for the guy to be sufficiently anonymous, though he deserves fame and fortune for his awesomeness.
Had gentoo as my daily driver for years, then it turned out that I was worse at optimizing my system than the debian guys who create distros professionally, so I just... stopped.
Spent too much time fiddling with gentoo because it was fun, now I'm on fedora because it just works and is modern enough.
(The amount of time spent fixing my system once I discovered "breakmygentoo" we probably shouldn't talk about)
I just assume that everyone arguing over distros has been using Linux for less than 3 years. If you're an experienced user you're just happy more people joined the cult community.
yeah I've tried just about all of them and at the end of the day it really boils down to "how do you like to install your shit". a DE/WM is probably more important than the distro at this point as you're going to get similar performance no matter what you're on.
I use NixOS only because for me personally it makes dev work slightly easier than other distros. that's it really. Some people want to constantly tinker, some people just want to install and forget about it for a year and have it stay out of their way. It's all about personal taste and how you want to install stuff really. I know a guy that uses Bazzite for everything not just gaming and he loves it. it works for him. My dad uses Slackware and will never use anything else, he loves it. If I had the time I'd probably switch to Gentoo but NixOS works for me right now. Like I said the DE/WM is more important.
All that being said if you use GNOME then I'm worried for your well being. /s
I LOVE keeping my configs in source control. I add something to my laptop in my shared config, it also adds it to my work desktop and my travel box. I need it just on the prime laptop? there's a spot for that too. Stuff that's not needed every day? nix-shell -p it. I even setup some shared nix-shell project folders so if i need something like yt-dlp, nix-shell in the directory pulls down a specific python, installs the latest yt-dlp, ffmpeg and deno, even leaves me a shellhook reminder of what the command line is. when I close that shell, it's all gone.
yeah nix shells are awesome. I use a few suckless things to the point I have my own #suckless nix development shell. Just load that up whenever I need to change or build someting and i'm good to go. for my other dev things I just use flakes which makes it just as easy. all I have to do is CD into a project directory and then my environment is instantly setup. CD out and it's gone. All that on top of my system config being in a repo I can reinstall my system on any PC within minutes.
Really NixOS is the end game of Linux Distros. Once you finally figure it out you'll never distro hop again.
I'm not sure that I'm what anyone would call "experienced". But I've used it for a long time. And people wetting their pants over one or another distribution seems like a total waste of time. they're all very similar.
I'm very much not happy to be associated with the community depicted in meme - i sincerely hope most of them are just taking the piss out of themselves.
I think even if there were quadruple the user base it's not going to materially change the number of developers making decent linux native programs. So you either use open source stuff. or webapps and wine stuff like that. Size of userbase is pretty irrelevant to me.
Distros are a matter of taste, and you shouldn‘t judge someone over it.
But a bit of friendly fun-poking is alright (e.g. „NixOS user spend all night configuring their PC“).
Insults directed directly at a person are never OK.
And there are of course distros that are objectively bad (like Ubuntu), and you can criticize their creators, and maybe try to convince the users to choose something else (that‘s where Mint is from, kind of), but you cannot. hate. on. them.
So true lmao. I have been using Linux for 4 years. Recently three of my friends have switched, each went for a distro I would never go for myself, nor recommend to anyone. Yet I was just happy for them and hopeful for FOSS.
Saying this as a person who once said systemd is bloat, proprietary drivers are backdoors, Firefox is bloated spyware, use only FSF approved distros.
Yes - they should stay in another subculture, far away.
Ideally they'll also be locked behind a paywall, safely protected by shit like "HP sure start" so that they don't accidentally open some dangerous csv file in anything other than excel.
Iirc LMDE uses a btrfs naming scheme that is incompatible with Timeshift for example, and it removes some standard Mint features. The last time I tried LMDE is was basically Debian with cinnamon (and green theme), but what is the Mint experience?
Mostly just the way Mint is set up out of the box and having most of the Mint tools available. I remember LMDE lacking some of the tools like the GPU driver installer last time I tried it, but I'm sure those are either being added over time or will be in the future.
After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works
Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that's supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.
I'm in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn't matter too much.
They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn't show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad... They also don't offer ways to filter them out... So... while I still install LM for others, I'm not a fan....
I don't care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
I'm not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.
I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
More often, it's not applications, per se -- it's things like video codecs and drivers.
And there is no open-source alternative, because the only way to decode that proprietary video format or run that proprietary wifi module is to use their proprietary software to do it. So you either have user-friendly distros that include the availability of those things for the 'it just works' experience, or you have open-source purist distros where you can be proud of being purely open source, but some of your video files won't play, and your wifi doesn't work.
Yeah... But LM has spotify, Google Earth, Dropbox and Sublime Texteditor mixed in open source software (like d-feet, a dbus inspection tool) in their repos... Those aren't propritary Codecs, WiFi driver or firmware...
Debian and Ubuntu have different APT repo sections for closed source stuff. That is what I would have expected...
Just in the context it’s very “performative hipster”. I’m not taking offense, just new to this and like to know people’s opinions/perceptions until I can eventually form my own.
Don't take those memes seriously, I think the only bad thing I'd have about CachyOS is that it's probably getting popularity as a trend, which doesn't reflect on the distro itself.
In my particular personal opinion it seems like a good choice if you already know what you're doing, since it's mostly just Arch with a nice installer, which I consider to be a solid choice with good support.
I’m mostly just asking because I figured the meme was based in something.
I’m no experienced software guy, mostly just a guy who isn’t dangerously stupid, but I’ve been having a good time so far. Or rather, a boring time because the only thing I had to really do was edit the fstab so my other drive would auto-mount. Otherwise it’s delightfully unexciting.
The image in the comment mostly just feels hipster to me, and that would fit jumping on a currently trendy distro that's also technically Arch. I don't know if there's more to it, it's just a vibe thing for me.
Lemme zoom in here just a wee bit on this here whatchycallit... Meme? Oh fiddlesticks, I don't have me glasses... There they are... Oh! Hee hee haa haa you young fellers are drole.
Not that surprising. It advertises itself as a gaming first distro and is very stable out of the box. It would be either that or bazzite for the top spot.
Cis straight male Arch user checking in. There's all kinds of us, everyone is welcome to wear what they like and feel what they feel.
Ask for help and help you shall have. (It'll just... it'll be someone giving you a link to a wiki page, or the wiki page, or saying "check the wiki", BUT YOU WILL BE HELPED BECAUSE THE WIKI IS GO(O)D!)
Migrating my workflow to NixOS right now, and it’s really made me realize just how good Arch Wiki is. NixOS and Nix are a bit disjointed in terms of documentation and learning resources. But Arch Wiki usually helps me gain intuition for which software does what and what traits I’m able to configure.
Non-Arch-Linux Linux users should absolutely consider the Arch Wiki when troubleshooting or learning about the Linux ecosystem! I’m not sure there’s a better broadly-applicable resource out there.
Arch wiki is awesome, I've been using Debian and Debian-derivatives for 10+ years and Debian's documentation is frankly embarassing compared to Arch's. There's some good stuff like Debian Administrator's Handbook (outdated tho) and the upgrade instructions for each stable release, but a lot of the Debian wiki information is outdated and riddled with dead links.
Linux Mint as the baby makes no sense. That would actually be CachyOS or MX Linux at this point.
::: spoiler edit
I didn't interpret the age of the people matching the user of the distro. I matched the person in the graphic as the perceived maturity of the project itself... not the user. This is why I say to me Linux Mint doesn't make sense as the baby... MX Linux and CachyOS have been adopted more recently than before.
:::
I love Mint because I put my geriatric, non-techie dad on it 6 or 7 years ago and he's only asked me for help 3 times. And þe second time was because he bought a new (used) laptop and wanted Linux Mint on it instead of þe Windows it came wiþ.
As a NixOS user, what are some things I would like about Guix? The webpage mostly covers features already present in NixOS, so I'm curious how they diverge.
Superior Error handling and debugging(with Lisp REPL) thanks to Guile Scheme language.
Guile scheme is easier to write and understand. It has a mature ecosystem of libraries and standard programming constructs (macros, recursion, higher-order functions)
In Guix System, the package manager, the build system, and the system configuration are all written in the same language.
No systemd, Guix system uses GNU Shepherd. You define services directly in Guile Scheme. This allows for dynamic service manipulation, hot-swapping, and introspection using the same language as the rest of the system.
Guix home (the home manager) is built in and very easy to use if you already got the hang of Guile Scheme.
Guix uses linux-libre, which is fully free kernel. If your hardware is not supported (likely) there is a nonguix channel to get proprietary packages to make it work.
The standard guix repository contains only free software. Proprietary software can be installed via some other channels, but not recommended.
Thanks for the breakdown. Those are some good arguments in favor of it I hadn't heard. Nix lang can leave some things to be desired, especially in the error handling/debugging department.
Make the transition if you feel like it.
On youtube, there is a channel called System Crafters, who has various resources for understanding how to work with guix system, emacs and EmacsWM, if you are interested in the most unified operating system.
If NixOS uses systemd that's the difference probably, my understanding is that guix is a non-systemd distro. (I am not who you replied to, just trying to help.)
I recently decided to set up CachyOS after a long break from Linux. I was kind of astounded at the experience of using an Arch-derivative. I went back to Debian the same day. Sometimes shit just works fine even though it worked fine 20 years ago.
I always felt that the default package situation for Ubuntu was far better than Debian's. Like, no, I don't want to set a root password and then manually install sudo or doas after and then add myself to the relevant group and then remove the root password...
See this makes me feel like I should be using arch, but I'm an idiot whos practically slobering all over the keyboard. I just want my pretty ui and for inkscape and my browser to work and to not have to worry about things unless I'm choosing to tinker
If I have to use the terminal for an prolonged period of time I might cry. I almost got void fully installed and working, but I just wanted my new replacement laptop up and running after my old one broke, so I gave up 🥹
I almost got void fully installed and working
I just wanted my new replacement laptop up
I gave up 🥹
Did you use the XFCE version? I did so (XFCE musl*) on an old machine, had a bit of trouble with the partitioning at first (had to try the live image a second time because new changes weren't working) but ultimately worked fine. Seems to run fine, then again I wanted XFCE anyway. Install octoxbps and you can use that for installing/updating software as well.
Though post-install I did notice some dependencies being missing when installing some software, and packaging seems weak (like no optional dependencies like Arch has). So I haven't committed to it on my main machine**, though I guess I can test it to see Void's long-term updating experience (though the live image being from ~6-months ago probably says enough).
* because I am actually interested in this for compilation, and it actually is a use-case for an old machine
** outdated Arch... a bit of friction with my non-fiber internet, legacy GPU (1050Ti) drivers on AUR is a no-go for me
Nah. Mint users aren't babies, they're the most everyman user. You probably won't find them on a linuxmemes page because they installed it out of frustration with co-pilot and don't want to know what an operating system is.
Ubuntu is accurate. Arch is accurate and also how dare you. Fedora is slander. That's linus torvalds' distro you're dissing. Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine. If its installed on something its your set it and forget it machine. The webserver that serves your neocities ass looking website. or your company's email server. Its not for old people, its for old machines. Or machines that plan on growing old.
Linux mint user here, I'm using it because I can't be bothered to spend my precious few spare time on fixing things my OS decided to break. I want something that just works, and mint fits the bill, and comes out of the box with most of the things set up how I like.
Specifically, Debian is for when you're sick of Canonical's bullshit but don't want to learn another package manager or start dealing with rolling releases.
Also, Raspberry Pi OS is Debian, too, and that's literally for children.
I was a mint user, a year later I am a void user and am trying other distros on other machines and plan on trying more OSes. First thing I did was learn to customize my cursor with custom icons I had from windows which took me days because I didn't know how to use the terminal. I somehow used flatpak wrong???
I am sure it is different for long term users but it was a good start and fun learning experience. I mean don't get me wrong I am still dumb but a bit less.
Idk about the mega neckbeard for opensuse. Every one I've met has been the most normal and least annoying. It just works and allegedly has some very nice convienence features.
Also the arch user could just as easily be copied to nixos.
Yeah, SUSE is a very competent server distro, basically RHEL/Alma/Rocky for Germans. Neckbeard maybe for Tumbleweed, but that still feels too normie compared to Arch, Void etc.
I went from Ubuntu to Bazzite (OpenSUSE was my first choice, but there was a weird error trying to get it running and installed). Since Bazzite is basically Fedora... Should I get myself a hat?
Obligatory not an arch user, but I have been thinking of potentially getting thigh highs if I can find purple and white stripped ones. Closest I got is a couple of pairs of soccer/football socks that I recently got, but I kinda wanna change that.
Add all the windows refugees with Zorin flooding forums with easily searchable questions and the gaming refugees with nobara complaining their community supported software isn't as full featured or polished as software produced by a multi-billion dollar company.
I can confirm that with a fresh Zorin install to replace windows 10, I am/will be one of the described persons. So far my qwant searches and AI searches have kept me off the forums, but I know the day will come.
It happens. I remember back in 2008 having quite the time learning about Linux with zero awareness of anything. I remember being kinda shocked there was a whole OS that wasn't windows or Mac and it was free.
I rarely have to troubleshoot. The only issues I've run into lately is the package manager (pacman) refusing to download an updated package. Refreshing the mirrors or a quick internet search is usually enough to fix that.
From my experience, the only times troubleshooting is needed is if you tinker with things or use programs outside of the package manager.
make it executable chmod +x bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh
run it ./bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh
run it again remembering the need to add --hijack
run it again remembering the need to run it as root. (... I know, I could just remember to do sudo and --hijack first time, but I like this silly ritual).
and type in the "Not reversible!", knowing how non-trivial a change to my operating system is about to happen in an instant.
reboot
enjoy seeing the new init select screen after the grub screen (albeit with only one option yet)
once back at a tty or once back in gui with a terminal emulator (... maybe after some more configuration tweaks, e.g. in /bedrock/etc/bedrock.conf), brl fetch arch
et viola, done. can do sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo pacman -Syu.
... And more likely I'd do brl fetch void ; brl fetch gentoo ; brl fetch -r ceres -n ceres devuan ; brl fetch artix. But ^ that's for if "I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update."
Could also do frequent brl copy arch arch-fallback-(date) or some such, so then if something goes wrong with an upgrade, you could just carry on unperturbed, or even disable the stratum that had something go wrong, or even delete it, and brl rename arch-fallback-20260806 arch, and carry on with your day, sure it'll resolve the upgrade properly next time tomorrow. ;)
But of course, this is a bit overkill, like starting a huge complex science and production logistics project just to crack a nut.
But it is my honest answer of how I deal with that. ;)
I'm forced to use Ubuntu (an old version too, 22.04) because the app I use for about 70% of my computer time doesn't support anything else. I've tried newer versions of ubuntu and other distros and have gotten it to a mostly working state after a lot of work, but the issues are too much and I also loose all customer support since I'm not using the officially supported distro and version.
I'll never go back to Windows but I feel jailed in more than I did before, and there's just no other option.
Im trying to imagine what software is so obscure no one has updated it or ported to another distro, but is important and good enough that you use it for 70% of your comluter time.
Even (often, especily) extremely old programming languages and stuff are still maintained by someone
They only support Ubuntu for their rdesktop app, Someone pulled it kicking and screaming into nixpkgs, i built a flake around it. It's stable, but the day they release a breaking change, I'm at the mercy of an unpaid, unnamed package maintainer to make it work again or take a stab at it myself. Or run it in wine, or run it in a windows VM. or build it out an ubuntu docker and x11 forward it back.
Yeah but even then a VM isnt crazy terrible for those. I had a job where i was running my pc through 4 different vms before i could reach the users PC (which was running on a VM)
Yeah, I had a Windows VM for them, it was the ultimate in compatibility, but it was another thing to deal with on admin/updates. Ubuntu docker images with maintainers bridges the gap in all ways except maybe a little sketch on supply chain security
279 Comments
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 181 pts · 28d
Don't forget the Gentoo crowd
deliriousdreams@fedia.io · 45 pts · 28d
That's a badass
capecloak.bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 28d
Right! I want one.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 28d
We really need to bring back cloak-wearing...
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 28d
I am sorry, but that notebook is way too modern for a proper Gentoo user. Anything above 500MHz is wasted energy with useless kernel flags
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 28d
If it compiles too fast, you don't have time to properly savour it.
Samsy@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 28d
He has to use a separate mouse! A mouse!! Never seen a mouse user in the tiling wm world.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 27d
I guess tiling WM users never need to edit an image, eh?
msage@programming.dev · 2 pts · 27d
Any web developer needs a mouse.
Or anyone who works with any ticketing system.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 28d
+1 for Dr Pepper
-1 for non Lenovo machine
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 28d
The total is zero, the Force is in balance. All is well
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 27d
Wouldn't a real Gentoo user use a genuine IBM era Thinkpad?
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 28d
Now that we can game, we need the horsepower.
Digit@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 22d
Oh. I didn't even notice the Dr Pepper. ... Also... I did not know there was any correlation between Dr Pepper and gentoo. I stopped my Dr Pepper addiction 5 years before I used gentoo. ... I was on 4L a day for months, and didn't realise I had a problem until I drank 9L in 24hr.
+1 for "-1 for non Lenovo machine". [... unless it's like tuxedo or system76 or something like that or some pure custom job on a different architecture]
redsand@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 28d
I resen.... Shit he even has a DrPepper. I guess I need to wash my cloak.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 28d
Hoodie, MX Master and Gentoo, that's literally my old stack, except it was a desktop not laptop.
ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Genuine question: is that cloak yours and how did you make it?
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
This is a random internet image for shitposts and giggles. I considered the face to be obscured enough for the guy to be sufficiently anonymous, though he deserves fame and fortune for his awesomeness.
CAVOK@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
Had gentoo as my daily driver for years, then it turned out that I was worse at optimizing my system than the debian guys who create distros professionally, so I just... stopped.
Spent too much time fiddling with gentoo because it was fun, now I'm on fedora because it just works and is modern enough.
(The amount of time spent fixing my system once I discovered "breakmygentoo" we probably shouldn't talk about)
ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net · 143 pts · 28d
Meh...use what you use, don't judge others for what they use... unless it's windows, fuck those guys.
ratel@mander.xyz · 79 pts · 28d
I just assume that everyone arguing over distros has been using Linux for less than 3 years. If you're an experienced user you're just happy more people joined the
cultcommunity.rozodru@piefed.world · 14 pts · 28d
yeah I've tried just about all of them and at the end of the day it really boils down to "how do you like to install your shit". a DE/WM is probably more important than the distro at this point as you're going to get similar performance no matter what you're on.
I use NixOS only because for me personally it makes dev work slightly easier than other distros. that's it really. Some people want to constantly tinker, some people just want to install and forget about it for a year and have it stay out of their way. It's all about personal taste and how you want to install stuff really. I know a guy that uses Bazzite for everything not just gaming and he loves it. it works for him. My dad uses Slackware and will never use anything else, he loves it. If I had the time I'd probably switch to Gentoo but NixOS works for me right now. Like I said the DE/WM is more important.
All that being said if you use GNOME then I'm worried for your well being. /s
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 28d
I LOVE keeping my configs in source control. I add something to my laptop in my shared config, it also adds it to my work desktop and my travel box. I need it just on the prime laptop? there's a spot for that too. Stuff that's not needed every day? nix-shell -p it. I even setup some shared nix-shell project folders so if i need something like yt-dlp, nix-shell in the directory pulls down a specific python, installs the latest yt-dlp, ffmpeg and deno, even leaves me a shellhook reminder of what the command line is. when I close that shell, it's all gone.
rozodru@piefed.world · 2 pts · 27d
yeah nix shells are awesome. I use a few suckless things to the point I have my own #suckless nix development shell. Just load that up whenever I need to change or build someting and i'm good to go. for my other dev things I just use flakes which makes it just as easy. all I have to do is CD into a project directory and then my environment is instantly setup. CD out and it's gone. All that on top of my system config being in a repo I can reinstall my system on any PC within minutes.
Really NixOS is the end game of Linux Distros. Once you finally figure it out you'll never distro hop again.
bryndos@fedia.io · 11 pts · 28d
I'm not sure that I'm what anyone would call "experienced". But I've used it for a long time. And people wetting their pants over one or another distribution seems like a total waste of time. they're all very similar.
I'm very much not happy to be associated with the community depicted in meme - i sincerely hope most of them are just taking the piss out of themselves.
I think even if there were quadruple the user base it's not going to materially change the number of developers making decent linux native programs. So you either use open source stuff. or webapps and wine stuff like that. Size of userbase is pretty irrelevant to me.
libewa@feddit.org · 5 pts · 28d
Distros are a matter of taste, and you shouldn‘t judge someone over it. But a bit of friendly fun-poking is alright (e.g. „NixOS user spend all night configuring their PC“). Insults directed directly at a person are never OK. And there are of course distros that are objectively bad (like Ubuntu), and you can criticize their creators, and maybe try to convince the users to choose something else (that‘s where Mint is from, kind of), but you cannot. hate. on. them.
cenzorrll@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 27d
I don't judge Ubuntu users for using it, but I do wish they'd try out a linux distro.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 7 pts · 27d
The experienced linux nerds argue about DEs, not distros.
treadful@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 28d
I've been using linux for almost 30 years. I'll stop arguing about distros when I'm dead.
Also, let's be real, this ain't that serious.
late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 27d
So true lmao. I have been using Linux for 4 years. Recently three of my friends have switched, each went for a distro I would never go for myself, nor recommend to anyone. Yet I was just happy for them and hopeful for FOSS.
Saying this as a person who once said systemd is bloat, proprietary drivers are backdoors, Firefox is bloated spyware, use only FSF approved distros.
ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net · 0 pts · 28d
I'm actually hoping the Windoze losers stay away....last thing we need is a flood of "make it more like windows" requests.. Ugh..
bryndos@fedia.io · 2 pts · 28d
Yes - they should stay in another subculture, far away.
Ideally they'll also be locked behind a paywall, safely protected by shit like "HP sure start" so that they don't accidentally open some dangerous csv file in anything other than excel.
l3mming@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 28d
Linux user for 25+ years here. I've tried 'em all. These days I just use Mint.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 28d
Same here, except on servers, where I prefer debian.
Because I'm old and tired, and I just want to install and be up and running in as short of a time as possible without dicking around.
sik0fewl@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 28d
Probably why you can sleep like a baby.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 6 pts · 26d
Babies are terrible with sleeping and wake up constantly causing problems.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 2 pts · 25d
Eh. You just give them a little shake and they go quiet pretty quickly.
houndeyes@toast.ooo · 1 pts · 23d
Thimbleful of whisky works too.
Tango@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 28d
I have yet to encounter a use case where I would need anything other than Mint.
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 28d
Same conclusion for me. Been using Linux for years, Mint is the only distro I've used that #JustWorks in my experience.
I use LMDE as my personal laptop, it's rock stable.
pmk@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 28d
What's the difference between LMDE and running Cinnamon on Debian?
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 27d
LMDE tries to give you the Mint experience on a Debian base. It's Debian for people who like Mint, I guess.
pmk@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 27d
Iirc LMDE uses a btrfs naming scheme that is incompatible with Timeshift for example, and it removes some standard Mint features. The last time I tried LMDE is was basically Debian with cinnamon (and green theme), but what is the Mint experience?
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 27d
Mostly just the way Mint is set up out of the box and having most of the Mint tools available. I remember LMDE lacking some of the tools like the GPU driver installer last time I tried it, but I'm sure those are either being added over time or will be in the future.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 28d
After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works
Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that's supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 28d
Yep, been on Linux for 10 or 12 years now, I honestly can't remember. Distro hopped at first, then I found Mint and never saw a need to change.
cmhe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
I'm in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn't matter too much.
However, I was negatively surprised that Linux Mint decided to mix closed-source proprietary software together with open-source software: http://packages.linuxmint.com/search.php?release=alfa§ion=import&keyword=
They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn't show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad... They also don't offer ways to filter them out... So... while I still install LM for others, I'm not a fan....
blarth@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 28d
Being too purist about the openness of a distribution is a big reason Linux has taken so long to gain foothold on PCs.
pmk@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 28d
On the other hand, being purist about openness is why GNU exists in the first place.
Jiral@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
So there are different Distros with different philosophies, that people with different preferences can find what tgey are looking for.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 0 pts · 27d
Jiral@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Wow, a typo.
cmhe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
I don't care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
I'm not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 27d
More often, it's not applications, per se -- it's things like video codecs and drivers.
And there is no open-source alternative, because the only way to decode that proprietary video format or run that proprietary wifi module is to use their proprietary software to do it. So you either have user-friendly distros that include the availability of those things for the 'it just works' experience, or you have open-source purist distros where you can be proud of being purely open source, but some of your video files won't play, and your wifi doesn't work.
cmhe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Yeah... But LM has spotify, Google Earth, Dropbox and Sublime Texteditor mixed in open source software (like d-feet, a dbus inspection tool) in their repos... Those aren't propritary Codecs, WiFi driver or firmware...
Debian and Ubuntu have different APT repo sections for closed source stuff. That is what I would have expected...
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 28d
CachyOS user
Soup@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 28d
I installed it last week. If just kinda works, is there supposed to be something bad about it?
cenzorrll@piefed.ca · 15 pts · 28d
What's bad about the picture?
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 28d
a distinct lack of thigh high socks
MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 28d
Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they're not there.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
We literally put the :3 right there and no one saw it
Soup@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
Just in the context it’s very “performative hipster”. I’m not taking offense, just new to this and like to know people’s opinions/perceptions until I can eventually form my own.
cenzorrll@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 27d
Oh don't worry, start working on that twirly mustache and you'll get there in no time!
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
I was thinking more fashionable and "stand-outy".
Real hipsters, real performative hipsters, use arch.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 27d
Don't take those memes seriously, I think the only bad thing I'd have about CachyOS is that it's probably getting popularity as a trend, which doesn't reflect on the distro itself.
In my particular personal opinion it seems like a good choice if you already know what you're doing, since it's mostly just Arch with a nice installer, which I consider to be a solid choice with good support.
Soup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 27d
I’m mostly just asking because I figured the meme was based in something.
I’m no experienced software guy, mostly just a guy who isn’t dangerously stupid, but I’ve been having a good time so far. Or rather, a boring time because the only thing I had to really do was edit the fstab so my other drive would auto-mount. Otherwise it’s delightfully unexciting.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 26d
The image in the comment mostly just feels hipster to me, and that would fit jumping on a currently trendy distro that's also technically Arch. I don't know if there's more to it, it's just a vibe thing for me.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 28d
Nixos
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 28d
NixOS
addie@feddit.uk · 39 pts · 28d
Speaking as an Arch btw user, my socks match, thank you very much. How rude.
Jo4ted@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 28d
Speak for yourself, asymmetry is awesome :3
Reygle@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 27d
Weird. Just turned 47 and I JUST tried Debian tonight.
So far it's very good.
Get off my lawn
hectocotylus@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 28d
As a Debian user... Yes
RQG@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 28d
Same. I feel well represented as a Debian user.
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 28d
I'm old and cranky and beat up, but I feel that pic is just touch too old as a debian user
RQG@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
It's more about how old I feel I think.
hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 28d
So Linux Mint Debian Edition would just be a middle-aged person?
SlippiHUD@slrpnk.net · 23 pts · 27d
As a Linux Mint Debian Edition user. I guess I'm just Benjamin Button.
pasdechance@jlai.lu · 23 pts · 27d
Lemme zoom in here just a wee bit on this here whatchycallit... Meme? Oh fiddlesticks, I don't have me glasses... There they are... Oh! Hee hee haa haa you young fellers are drole.
I use Debian.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 22 pts · 28d
TIL I'm a geriatric baby. (LMDE)
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 28d
The real life Benjamin Button
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 21 pts · 28d
Fairly accurate. SUSE is more like an IT guy forced to wear a suit to work that is not tailored well.
This guy is Kali Linux or Qubes/Whonix/TailsOS:
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 27d
What a fantastic image!
bort@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 27d
distro memes should be updated for 2026. i.e. with cachy,bazzite,steamos.
kogasa@programming.dev · 26 pts · 27d
sparkling arch, sparkling fedora, and diet arch
Evotech@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 27d
Yeah. Surprisingly cachyos had the largest userbase om steam after steamos
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 27d
Cachy is pretty good and just works for a lot of stuff
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
Cachyos is Arch for people who want to use their computers
Arch is for people who yearn to control the parasympathetic nervous system with iron chains
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 27d
The funny thing is I though Arch would be lighter but after trying debian it isn't.
Asonyxi@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 27d
What would that make Endeavor?
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 27d
Not that surprising. It advertises itself as a gaming first distro and is very stable out of the box. It would be either that or bazzite for the top spot.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Bazzite surprisingly far down the list
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 27d
Using steam statistics is going to bias your data toward gaming-oriented distros.
bort@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 27d
cachyos is also topdog on distrowatch, by a wide margin
victorz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 28d
Cis straight male Arch user checking in. There's all kinds of us, everyone is welcome to wear what they like and feel what they feel.
Ask for help and help you shall have. (It'll just... it'll be someone giving you a link to a wiki page, or the wiki page, or saying "check the wiki", BUT YOU WILL BE HELPED BECAUSE THE WIKI IS GO(O)D!)
SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 28d
Migrating my workflow to NixOS right now, and it’s really made me realize just how good Arch Wiki is. NixOS and Nix are a bit disjointed in terms of documentation and learning resources. But Arch Wiki usually helps me gain intuition for which software does what and what traits I’m able to configure.
Non-Arch-Linux Linux users should absolutely consider the Arch Wiki when troubleshooting or learning about the Linux ecosystem! I’m not sure there’s a better broadly-applicable resource out there.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 28d
Arch wiki is awesome, I've been using Debian and Debian-derivatives for 10+ years and Debian's documentation is frankly embarassing compared to Arch's. There's some good stuff like Debian Administrator's Handbook (outdated tho) and the upgrade instructions for each stable release, but a lot of the Debian wiki information is outdated and riddled with dead links.
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
There's dozens of us! Represent!
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
👋✊
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 28d
Swap Ubuntu and mint, and Suse needs to be visibly German.
narp@feddit.org · 19 pts · 28d
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d
🤔
So... this for Tumbleweed and lederhosen for leap?
OldSageRick@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 28d
https://nyarchlinux.moe/
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 28d
Beautiful
sepi@piefed.social · 16 pts · 28d
Debian user. Yes.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 27d
Same. I feel accurately portrayed.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 15 pts · 27d
Hey I'm not that old!
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 27d
I came to say excactly that.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 7 pts · 27d
1995 was 10 years ago right?
yakko@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 27d
Always
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 27d
Absolutely. And 1980s was about 20 years ago.
Digit@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 26d
So feels like it.
Would be nice.
Can we pick this up again from 2005?
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 28d
I've been on TuxedoOS for a while. Everything has worked so well I've managed to quell my distro hopping for a couple years now.
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 5 pts · 28d
It's pretty underrated, it's like Mint or Pop but with KDE (and therefore better) and better optimization if you buy their hardware.
EffortlessGrace@piefed.social · 15 pts · 27d
Me, running CachyOS, and eschewing the socks:
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
Give it time...
EffortlessGrace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 26d
Nah. I'm good.
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 27d
Hell yeah! Programming socks are overrated.
EffortlessGrace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 26d
Yes, they are.
Kneel before the barefoot-programming aristocracy!
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 27d
As a Debian user. I'll take it. Could be worse, could be anyone of the others.
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 15 pts · 28d
Linux Mint as the baby makes no sense. That would actually be CachyOS or MX Linux at this point.
::: spoiler edit
I didn't interpret the age of the people matching the user of the distro. I matched the person in the graphic as the perceived maturity of the project itself... not the user. This is why I say to me Linux Mint doesn't make sense as the baby... MX Linux and CachyOS have been adopted more recently than before.
:::
djsiete@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d
Maybe zorin OS. I think that mint is still popular with new Linux users though.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 27d
Mint is for people doing other things IMO (that fiddling with different os and such). It just works (tm).
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 27d
So far in my experience cachy just works a bit more than mint
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 28d
Feels like maybe that represents SUSE but...not OpenSUSE. Tumbleweed is legit and the community is super chill and dope.
yeah I feel personally attacked lmaocRazi_man@europe.pub · 3 pts · 26d
Yeah this is a disservice to Tumbleweed. I would have accepted a double chin, but the triple chin is going too far.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 28d
More like
vs
arsCynic@piefed.social · 6 pts · 28d
I use OpenRC btw.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 28d
Excellent! OpenRC crowd! ✊
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 28d
I use OpenSuse, Fedora, and Arch.
This meme is too accurate
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 27d
The combination of those three people in the meme would be... Interesting
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
So you're a trans Fedora wearer with a triple neckbeard?
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 27d
Hey, don't blow my cover
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 27d
Does being a Linux Mint Debian Edition user make me middle-aged?
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 17 pts · 27d
No, an old person in diapers
notgold@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 27d
bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com · 13 pts · 27d
It me. I am Happy baby.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 27d
Fedora user wearing Fedora. Might be a little on the nose.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 27d
Ummm accccctually it’s a trillby.
cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 27d
Ummm actually, it's pronounced acktually
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 27d
I stand corrected! :)
Digit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 26d
I wear a fedora, and I've used nearly any and all distros as my daily driver, except fedora.
It's so confusing.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 26d
It’s okay. Apparently women don’t use Linux. Unless they wear socks apparently? Or is it just the men using Arch that wear the socks? Also confused.
Asonyxi@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 27d
Hats are also just super uncomfy and mess with my hair.
Folstar@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 28d
I have limited experience here, but can confirm that being a sleeping baby is quite pleasant.
DrSleepless@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
I too am new to Linux and love mint
Sxan@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 28d
I love Mint because I put my geriatric, non-techie dad on it 6 or 7 years ago and he's only asked me for help 3 times. And þe second time was because he bought a new (used) laptop and wanted Linux Mint on it instead of þe Windows it came wiþ.
DrSleepless@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Nice
dawcas@scribe.disroot.org · 11 pts · 27d
I can confirm I feel as old as the debian pic.
Magnum@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 27d
Why is everyone always saying I am old and boring. I am not on Slackware????
wotaku@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 27d
Fedora users
cosmos8188@leminal.space · 7 pts · 27d
Hey, how did you take a picture of me 🤨
Asonyxi@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 27d
God I wish
xilophor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
if I use both Fedora and OpenSUSE, does that make me a triple neckbeard in a bunny suit?
mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 28d
What about bazzite?
EonNShadow@pawb.social · 13 pts · 28d
Furry.
(It's me I use Bazzite)
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
I consider Bazzite fedora but that changes nothing to what you said
EonNShadow@pawb.social · 2 pts · 27d
In the context of the meme, Fedora+Arch is more accurate
Just add some cat ear headphones
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 28d
Ha, I WISH mint was accurate. Then I could be in bed asleep.
Johanno@feddit.org · 10 pts · 27d
As always people forget glorious Nixos
Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 27d
I think we NixOS users get grouped in with Arch. Same socks, different colors.
Asonyxi@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 27d
The one NixOS user I know is genuinely like that lol.
GlowingDeer@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 27d
And the even more glorious, guix
Robert7301201@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 27d
As a NixOS user, what are some things I would like about Guix? The webpage mostly covers features already present in NixOS, so I'm curious how they diverge.
GlowingDeer@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 26d
Robert7301201@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 26d
Thanks for the breakdown. Those are some good arguments in favor of it I hadn't heard. Nix lang can leave some things to be desired, especially in the error handling/debugging department.
GlowingDeer@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 25d
Make the transition if you feel like it. On youtube, there is a channel called System Crafters, who has various resources for understanding how to work with guix system, emacs and EmacsWM, if you are interested in the most unified operating system.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 27d
If NixOS uses systemd that's the difference probably, my understanding is that guix is a non-systemd distro. (I am not who you replied to, just trying to help.)
atk007@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 27d
Yup, as a Debian user I feel this old and the only person I personally know, who have transitioned is an Arch user.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 27d
I just switched to debian after the last AUR issues.
dimmuborgnine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
I recently decided to set up CachyOS after a long break from Linux. I was kind of astounded at the experience of using an Arch-derivative. I went back to Debian the same day. Sometimes shit just works fine even though it worked fine 20 years ago.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
I sleep as cozy as a baby in a cable knit onesie with Mint on my computers. Looks pretty accurate.
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
Where Slackware?? WHERE SLACKWARE??!!
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 28d
Six feet under
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 3 pts · 28d
Great song.
Sturgist@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 28d
😭😭😭😭 I wish my legs looked that good in stripey leggings...but sadly they do not
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 6 pts · 28d
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I see are legs that have never completed a single squat.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
Ya my thighs thicc so they just won't stay up
Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 28d
garters
AbyssalBleat@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 27d
It's lonely out there being an arch user and a butch dyke 😔
hansolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 27d
Yeah, well I'm a Mint baby. I have to rely on the Debian users to take me to a Mint baby playdate.
It's upsetting. Maybe I'll go cry about it...
ZebulonP@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 27d
Yes, am a literal toddler.
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 27d
I always felt that the default package situation for Ubuntu was far better than Debian's. Like, no, I don't want to set a root password and then manually install sudo or doas after and then add myself to the relevant group and then remove the root password...
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 26d
Where NixOS?
sirico@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 26d
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 28d
Can confirm. Run OpenSUSE and my neckfolds run for days.
NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 28d
What about us distrohoppers? Just schizos?
death_to_carrots@feddit.org · 4 pts · 28d
Old neck beard with trans socks.
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 3 pts · 28d
That would explain a lot about me...
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 28d
squirrel
Limonene@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 27d
I think this is a better representation of Debian (the beard is important). https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson,_2019.jpg
pmk@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 27d
Ken actually uses Debian, at least he said so in an interview a couple of years ago.
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 28d
I look similar to RMS and I use Arch (btw). Whatever is going on in the picture requires more fashion sense than I've got.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 28d
debian 16 estradiol
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 28d
See this makes me feel like I should be using arch, but I'm an idiot whos practically slobering all over the keyboard. I just want my pretty ui and for inkscape and my browser to work and to not have to worry about things unless I'm choosing to tinker
If I have to use the terminal for an prolonged period of time I might cry. I almost got void fully installed and working, but I just wanted my new replacement laptop up and running after my old one broke, so I gave up 🥹
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 28d
Did you use the XFCE version? I did so (XFCE musl*) on an old machine, had a bit of trouble with the partitioning at first (had to try the live image a second time because new changes weren't working) but ultimately worked fine. Seems to run fine, then again I wanted XFCE anyway. Install
octoxbpsand you can use that for installing/updating software as well.Though post-install I did notice some dependencies being missing when installing some software, and packaging seems weak (like no optional dependencies like Arch has). So I haven't committed to it on my main machine**, though I guess I can test it to see Void's long-term updating experience (though the live image being from ~6-months ago probably says enough).
* because I am actually interested in this for compilation, and it actually is a use-case for an old machine
** outdated Arch... a bit of friction with my non-fiber internet, legacy GPU (1050Ti) drivers on AUR is a no-go for me
TheGingerNut@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 28d
Nah. Mint users aren't babies, they're the most everyman user. You probably won't find them on a linuxmemes page because they installed it out of frustration with co-pilot and don't want to know what an operating system is.
Ubuntu is accurate. Arch is accurate and also how dare you. Fedora is slander. That's linus torvalds' distro you're dissing. Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine. If its installed on something its your set it and forget it machine. The webserver that serves your neocities ass looking website. or your company's email server. Its not for old people, its for old machines. Or machines that plan on growing old.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 9 pts · 28d
Mint user and the image is perfect. This is because Mint allows me to rest like a baby that has all their needs met, free from anxiety.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 28d
Piss your pants and wake up crying several times per night?
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 28d
Look, all of us have different sleeping habits, okay
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 28d
Linux mint user here, I'm using it because I can't be bothered to spend my precious few spare time on fixing things my OS decided to break. I want something that just works, and mint fits the bill, and comes out of the box with most of the things set up how I like.
tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 28d
All of my personal machines run Debian.
EDIT: Well...I have Termux installed on an Android device as well. I guess that could be considered a Linux distro.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 28d
Sending this comment from a Debian desktop system. And it's running oldstable, because that's how I roll!
BabyVi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
Debian is for when the other distros have failed you and you're too old to deal with that shit anymore.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 28d
Specifically, Debian is for when you're sick of Canonical's bullshit but don't want to learn another package manager or start dealing with rolling releases.
Also, Raspberry Pi OS is Debian, too, and that's literally for children.
Markus@organica.social · 3 pts · 28d
@TheGingerNut @cannedtuna ZorinOS user detected
Untamed_Star@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 28d
I was a mint user, a year later I am a void user and am trying other distros on other machines and plan on trying more OSes. First thing I did was learn to customize my cursor with custom icons I had from windows which took me days because I didn't know how to use the terminal. I somehow used flatpak wrong???
I am sure it is different for long term users but it was a good start and fun learning experience. I mean don't get me wrong I am still dumb but a bit less.
sudo@programming.dev · 6 pts · 28d
Idk about the mega neckbeard for opensuse. Every one I've met has been the most normal and least annoying. It just works and allegedly has some very nice convienence features.
Also the arch user could just as easily be copied to nixos.
fizzle@quokk.au · 4 pts · 28d
Don't take it too seriously mate.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 28d
Yeah, SUSE is a very competent server distro, basically RHEL/Alma/Rocky for Germans. Neckbeard maybe for Tumbleweed, but that still feels too normie compared to Arch, Void etc.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
Gentoo gang where?
lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 28d
In a cave with a box of scraps and a thousand yard stare.
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev · 4 pts · 27d
They were still trying to piece together the camera.
OozingPositron@feddit.cl · 2 pts · 28d
Dancing in the server dungeon.
Asonyxi@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 27d
Never met an arch user, but I know a NixOS user who is pretty much the bottom middle.
fisch@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 27d
The arch users are also bottoms.
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
Can confirm. I arch bottom, btw.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 27d
I run
topbhamlin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
😏
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 26d
htopEat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
I look like a fat version of the bottom left but use Ubuntu
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 27d
Arch does piss me off less than most distros.
Wait….
Digit@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 26d
Reminds of the ol' Churchill line... "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the other types of government."
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
I went from Ubuntu to Bazzite (OpenSUSE was my first choice, but there was a weird error trying to get it running and installed). Since Bazzite is basically Fedora... Should I get myself a hat?
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 28d
Obligatory not an arch user, but I have been thinking of potentially getting thigh highs if I can find purple and white stripped ones. Closest I got is a couple of pairs of soccer/football socks that I recently got, but I kinda wanna change that.
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
Arch is what i want to be, openSuse is who i am.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 5 pts · 27d
how many years more i have to use mint until i rejuvenate?
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 27d
Add all the windows refugees with Zorin flooding forums with easily searchable questions and the gaming refugees with nobara complaining their community supported software isn't as full featured or polished as software produced by a multi-billion dollar company.
Plumrooster@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 26d
I can confirm that with a fresh Zorin install to replace windows 10, I am/will be one of the described persons. So far my qwant searches and AI searches have kept me off the forums, but I know the day will come.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 26d
It happens. I remember back in 2008 having quite the time learning about Linux with zero awareness of anything. I remember being kinda shocked there was a whole OS that wasn't windows or Mac and it was free.
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
not accurate
source: transfem opensuse user
coqdecombat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 26d
well...
source: overweight bearded nerd with glasses using opensuse
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
Debian man: "I hold the keys to the future"
Digit@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 27d
Not very.
Especially for suse. Huh?
kalpol@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 27d
Yeah OpenSuSE should just be a tumbleweed picture. Aren't we all tumbleweeds at heart?
orioler25@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Yeah this is the first time I've seen this attribution, no idea where it's coming from.
ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 28d
The higher the socks the downer the foo'
Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org · 4 pts · 27d
Actually, yes (I use Arch-nya-desu, btw >w<)
Where are Void and Alpine? Or Slackware and Gentoo.
toynbee@piefed.social · 4 pts · 23d
I discovered last night that my cat is a Debian fan.
edit: So far as I can tell, my cat is not a car.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 28d
where linux from scratch?
cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 28d
Behind suse
richardisaguy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d
This is me as an opensuse user
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 27d
Can confirm. I'm an Ubuntu child and soon going to become a Debian old man.
dasrael@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 28d
more than I want to admit........
kablez@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Urn full of ashes - Manjaro
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
I installed Debian on a VM just to test out a Necesse Lan server for the home/family.... I did not like it.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 28d
It's got a lot of rough edges on desktop compared to Ubuntu, hence the old joke, Ubuntu is preconfigured Debian
dadarobot@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 28d
i use arch but look more like the suse one
18107@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 28d
I use Mint, and my
brothersister uses Arch. Seems accurate enough to me.AshPony@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
Yes
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 27d
What does LXTq get me?
esc@piefed.social · 2 pts · 28d
yes
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 27d
Debian user here. I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update. How do u folks deal with that?
dimmuborgnine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 27d
As far as I can tell, the first thing you have to do as an Arch user is convince yourself that you're smarter than the package maintainer.
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 27d
I rarely have to troubleshoot. The only issues I've run into lately is the package manager (pacman) refusing to download an updated package. Refreshing the mirrors or a quick internet search is usually enough to fix that.
From my experience, the only times troubleshooting is needed is if you tinker with things or use programs outside of the package manager.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 27d
It isn't an issue. I just left Arch because the AUR seems to be imploding. And without it Arch looses one of its big advantages.
davici@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 27d
I update weekly ish and very rarely have issues. And if I do it's the usual suspects hyprland, pw, proton and video drivers.
You can either lock these and make them not update as frequently or use more stable software instead.
I personally like the troubleshooting because it means I'm learning something so that helps.
Digit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 26d
[ps. preface warning: dangerous whimsy here... rtfm... don't dive in eager and blind and then "break" your system and come blame me.]
I don't [switch]. Instead I [(having already thoroughly read through all the documentation several times)]
wget https://github.com/bedrocklinux/bedrocklinux-userland/releases/download/0.7.31/bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.shchmod +x bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh./bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.shbrl fetch archsudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo pacman -Syu.... And more likely I'd do
brl fetch void ; brl fetch gentoo ; brl fetch -r ceres -n ceres devuan ; brl fetch artix. But ^ that's for if "I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update."Could also do frequent
brl copy arch arch-fallback-(date)or some such, so then if something goes wrong with an upgrade, you could just carry on unperturbed, or even disable the stratum that had something go wrong, or even delete it, andbrl rename arch-fallback-20260806 arch, and carry on with your day, sure it'll resolve the upgrade properly next time tomorrow. ;)But of course, this is a bit overkill, like starting a huge complex science and production logistics project just to crack a nut.
But it is my honest answer of how I deal with that. ;)
M137@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d
I'm forced to use Ubuntu (an old version too, 22.04) because the app I use for about 70% of my computer time doesn't support anything else. I've tried newer versions of ubuntu and other distros and have gotten it to a mostly working state after a lot of work, but the issues are too much and I also loose all customer support since I'm not using the officially supported distro and version. I'll never go back to Windows but I feel jailed in more than I did before, and there's just no other option.
So what does that image look like?
tux7350@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
Put the app into a docker container?
silicon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 28d
I dunno, put it in a VM on a much newer distro?
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
Im trying to imagine what software is so obscure no one has updated it or ported to another distro, but is important and good enough that you use it for 70% of your comluter time.
Even (often, especily) extremely old programming languages and stuff are still maintained by someone
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 28d
Probably shit like NinjaRMM
They only support Ubuntu for their rdesktop app, Someone pulled it kicking and screaming into nixpkgs, i built a flake around it. It's stable, but the day they release a breaking change, I'm at the mercy of an unpaid, unnamed package maintainer to make it work again or take a stab at it myself. Or run it in wine, or run it in a windows VM. or build it out an ubuntu docker and x11 forward it back.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Yeah but even then a VM isnt crazy terrible for those. I had a job where i was running my pc through 4 different vms before i could reach the users PC (which was running on a VM)
Also wine
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 27d
Yeah, I had a Windows VM for them, it was the ultimate in compatibility, but it was another thing to deal with on admin/updates. Ubuntu docker images with maintainers bridges the gap in all ways except maybe a little sketch on supply chain security
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
Distrobox?
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Can confirm, am baby.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Zorin?
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Baby.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Wah
eureka@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 27d
Alright, now where do we put the boring happy people who have explored enough and just want one that works out of the box?
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
Damage@feddit.it · 6 pts · 27d
The ultra neckbeard has a SUSE logo, there's no gentoo in the pic
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 27d
I thought the triple neckbeards use BSD?
Damage@feddit.it · 2 pts · 27d
Hurd
Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org · 2 pts · 27d
Plan9 or 9Front lol
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 27d
It’s still compiling
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
Yeah I noticed that is why I removed my comment.
khanh@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 27d
Same image for openSUSE also applies to Devuan, Debian Minimal, Slackware, and Artix users.
Digit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 26d
I didn't think it even applied to suse