Monkey paw's finger curls: You can see them. They're EVERYWHERE. People you thought you knew and loved have numbers greater than zero over their head. Despite your horror, you try to make use of the power to try to bring them to justice. No one believes you. You have the Cassandra's curse of the status quo. 'Steve? What are you talking about? He'd never do anything like that. Butter wouldn't melt. You should probably shut your mouth before we get offended about what you said about our friend and kick the shit out of you. Know what I mean?' You watch the news and see everyone who has a position of power over you and your loved ones has a non-zero number. You try to escape into fictional media but your favorite actors are non-zeroes, the author pictures in your favorite books show non-zeroes, the album sleeves of your favorite bands show non-zeroes.
I heard in america, that FBI says there are few serial killers around that never get caught. They probably have a system or lack thereof.
Some media sources have cited estimates suggesting there may be 25 to 50 active serial killers in the United States at a given time, though the FBI has stated that the true number cannot be quantified.
And then you befriend a stranger on the internet. You are nervous at first but you can't see them, so you can imagine their number is zero. You hit it off. They're amazing. Funny. Sweet. Kind. Hardworking. The relationship turns into a distant romance. Then you finally meet. You had no idea the number could go that high.
Or… you meet up and are flabbergasted by their ZERO. You could not be happier. You get extremely close, get married, have a child together… twins! You’re out overnight with friends, and your partner’s friend comes to visit. You return the next day to find the kids sleeping in and your beloved and their friend having a nice brunch, laughing with each other gleefully with the number two over each of their heads.
You meet up for the first time in real life, and they do not have a number. How could this be? EVERYONE has a number, thank the gods they’re almost always zero! You’re immediately suspicious of their intentions and past actions. They’re not acting anything like they did online… they’re actually acting really fuckin weird, which greatly discomforts you.
You grapple with this internal conundrum, but you had failed to notice something crucial: The instant you saw each other, their eyes so briefly darted up, looking above your head.
(And then I kept it when I transitioned, and now she says it’s too feminine and she wishes she didn’t. No backsies, mom! It’s mine and I’ll never be your son.)
Would it be their preferred name or legal name? What about people who go by different names in different contexts? For example, William at work, but Bill with friends & family? Or stage names? Or professional titles?
Since it’s updated in real time, people would get to update that as they see fit. A trans lady who’s not out at work might be Sophie at the bar, but Leon in the office, for example.
Similar to the other reply, it's a good idea and seemingly pragmatic, but we could spend a decade arguing over the pedantry of what qualifies as a lie and still not be done.
That's a very good angle, honing in on exactly the problem of lying.
"Intent" could get just as tricky. With all the various forms of psychosis, delusion, etc. it'd be tough to say whether someone "meant" to do something. (It's trickier than we'd usually like to admit even for a typical person.)
The same kind of problems exist around whether the speaker "knows" something to be false.
Then there's the problem of fiction. Bedtime stories, campfire stories...
And not exactly a technical problem, but what about a doctor who knowingly oversimplifies or otherwise intentionally twists his words in an attempt to get the patient to manage their condition optimally? Parents who lie about how something works to help their kids understand something or behave safely? Teachers who oversimplify physics lessons to present it in a way their students can grasp for now. Not exactly a technical problem maybe, but would we want "noble lies" to affect the counter? This is a little off track, just occurred to me and felt like writing it out 🤷♂️
This one doesn't pose a direct problem really but maybe helps me get to my point: what if people who rode a train moving at relativistic speeds when lightning struck both ends talk with someone who was watching from outside about when the lightning struck? Truth is tricky...
But making it, "how often did they attempt to intentionally deceive" as you suggested is a great approach imho. Maybe almost realistic. There's probably some biological indicators of that right? ... for non-psychopaths
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
“What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.
It's a great thought and all, but wouldn't authors, actors, and other purveyors of fiction have really large numbers? Every politician would suddenly find a new found joy of reading fiction to children in hospitals.
Is "how much I would like them on a scale from 0 to 10 (with a resolution of like 0.01) if I got to know them at a deep level" allowed? Or is that cheating?
that might be nice, or you might find out you dont know your friends and loved ones as deeply as you thought, and if you did you wouldnt really like them at all.
(Or that most everyone is likable if you invest that time, and everybody is a 9+. The horror of finding that your political boogiemen are certainly charismatic and kind to their friends...)
A recent number would be more useful; last hour, last day. They might have had a food intolerance in the past which pushed the number stratospheric which they have since learned to avoid
then you start causing problems clocking and accidentally outing eggs and closeted trans people all over the place. even with perfect knowledge theres always politics...
Ive been kinda obsessed with truth my whole life and I recognize the more I do not speak truth the less I can recognize what it. It is problematic for sure. Its good we can choose not to speak.
the units for farts would be interesting. i would ask for total mass of fart for a more understandable value. number of farts would be kind of ambiguous cause someone could have lots of little farts or few huge farts. some asshole would choose those asinine equivalent volume units favored by the compressed gases industry, which no one would really understand.
Some kind of "empathy score." Not sure what the formula would be, but it would reflect how readily they feel empathy for another person, and how many other people they can care about.
A narcissist would have a 0 -- they can only care about themself. Someone with very limited empathy would have a small number -- say, they can only care about their immediate family, and they need to really get to know someone before they care about that person. People who naturally care about others, even if they don't know the other person, would have high numbers.
This number would sometimes just flat out tell you that certain people should be avoided, or certain conversations are pointless with that person. Or if you do need to try to convince them of something, the number may show you how to frame the conversation. E.g., show how it's in their own interest if they have a low number.
I can't tell if that would end up depressing the crap out of me or making me feel better about the world. My pessimistic brain tells me there are far more un-empathic people in the world than I'd like to acknowledge.
Oh, I didn't see any other rules specified in the question :) So, isn't the fact that I can see everyone's stat above their head already a privacy violation to begin with? Also, am I the only one who gets to see a chosen stat or can other people also choose a stat that only they can see?
It doesn't specify, but if everyone could see it the implications would be more pressing than the question itself. If only one person, or just a select few people, in the world can see it it's not a widespread privacy violation. Just like only a select few people are (supposed) to have access to private information in the real world for it to not be a privacy violation.
Presumably with questions like others can see different stats if they chose one. And even if only you saw it you could be super unethical and MAKE it a widespread privacy violation by showing social security, credit card, etc. info and stealing whatever you could as much as you could.
Yeah, but those select few are given access for a specific need, like to be able to give you health care or pay your salary, etc. If even just a few randos could see whatever stat they want about all of us for no reason than their own wishes, I'd definitely consider that a violation of our privacy, even if they kept the info to themselves and even more so if it was something they could exploit. But all this is getting away from the spirit of the question.
No, not really. There are a LOT of very unempathic people who are super easy to scam (MAGA), and being empathetic doesn't mean you fall for scams easily. You'd want something like a gullibility score for that.
Oh awesome. I'd love something like that, and do think we need to kind of train every person to understand and analyze others empathy better. Because this is a major problem when selecting, voting or promoting people into position of power. Every time there is a competition for a promotion, the ones that care the least about anything but more power or money or influence will be statistically more likely to advance. The more self serving the better. So at the top end you have function sociopaths who are very adept at lying about themselves or even to themselves.
Detecting purely self-serving or greedy people would be awesome and should be taught and trained for in school as basic political education. You know like math or PT is taught and trained. And candidates for political power should be put through some kind of "psychological gauntlet" to make it at least more likely they show they care or believe in something besides gaining more power.
It might also be possible to create a kind of AI models to evaluate and analyze people seeking power. Like some sort of lie detector test observing every reaction and every word and tonal shift in a conversation with the machine. Something like the interrogation in Blade Runner or "The Expanse" Season 1. Of course a bit of a ludicrous idea.
Might be better to just pick someone at random, quite likely to get better world leaders like that.
But this remains a fundamental problem of any hierarchical system, no matter if capitalism or socialism. We are now in an age where humanity can easily destroy itself, and we have collectively chosen, or proven unable, to save ourselves from the existential danger of climate change. And despite our "advances in ethics" in general, we're still ruled by total shits. And no matter what system we choose the problem will persist. Lack of empathy is a very strong indicator for that.
Sorry for the long rant lol
FYI, I believe you use narcissist wrong, because generally they "weaponize empathy" to manipulate people. They absolutely need to maintain a false glamorous mirror image of their own ego (or they die) and will use all sorts of rationalizations or delusions to keep that up. From a young age they need to pretend and for that they need to read people very well. And as long as they see you as one of the awesome people they'll charm you, but if they see you as one of the shit people they'll flip and treat you like dirt. And no amount of time will change that lol.
I'd add in a modifier for people on the spectrum. Like, the number is low, but that's due to an underdeveloped social ability, not because they are sociopaths.
A narcissist has a lot of empathy... for themself. A racist has a lot of empathy for people of their own race, but zero empathy for people of certain races.
The way it works doesn't even involve compatibility, so much. It's just how much you've conversed over time without incident, like monkeys grooming each other.
It would be interesting to see this update in realtime. You see someone about to get in their car, with a death time 5 mins from now. You call out "hey", they stop, see you were talking to someone else. The date updates to 30 years in the future, as that momentary pause meant they won't be in the place they would have when someone runs a red light.
Somewhere unseen, someone's number changes from 20 years away to 5 mins away.
My thought was that it would be immutable. It wouldn't change even if I told them.
I don't think I'd tell very many people. It's not something I'd want people to know about me. Also, the few I told wouldn't believe me and if I proved to others that I knew this, I think they'd see me, rightly so, as some sort of freak. The temptation to ask would be overwhelming, but they don't really want to know.
It kind of ruins the concept if you can't use the information to change the outcome. Or maybe just makes it sad, every time you try to save someone they die at that time anyway. Then over time you work out that the clock knew what actions you were going to do, and by trying to interfere with the people with short times you actually caused their deaths.
Since HP were originally invented as how many "equvalent penetrative 14 inch shells" are needed to sink a ship, its save to assume, every human has 1HP.
How willing they are to talk to you right now. You can always pick the right person to talk to if you need to ask a question, give a friend the exact amount of space they need if they’re going thru something, and easily identify people that are interested in you (or not). Best of all, though, you can spot someone who’s a little too eager to talk and avoid a hostage-style conversation where they won’t let you leave politely
Your eyes scan the room, skimming the numbers. Everyone is in their own conversation, 20, 35, 15, nothing promising until you spot an 85. Their back is turned but you make your way through the crowd to their side of the room. You say "Hey", and they turn, and as soon at they see you their number starts to drop. 75, 60 45, 10. Ouch, sometimes you wonder why you even try.
None. Someday, some company will build and sell a tool that actually does that, and it will be hella privacy invasive. Actually, it'll probably just be another invasive feature added to the Ray Ban perv glasses.
When I was a kid I was once horribly racist to someone but I... was really bad at it? I didn't know any slurs I don't think, so I said "at least I'm not black" (the girl was Asian). Still feel bad about it though :( Not seen her for decades.
Total net worth. No hidden assets or secret bank accounts. Every last cent that a person is worth. Also, it gets brighter/more noticeable whenever you're advocating for something that increases your net worth.
I feel like this would be the only way to get a lot of people to connect the dots.
It would need to include intangible wealth too, though. One of the big 20th century studies on poverty concluded there's a great deal of social mobility, because rich nepobabies on a gap year or at university were counted as having no income. (And if they'd been looking at wealth, maybe not much in their own name there, either)
Quality of Life impact: How much damage (or benefit) their actions (work, lifestyle, whatever) have done for the net quality of life across the globe. I figure anyone who drives to work is probably doing a little more harm than good, but perhaps they make up for it by being a good school teacher or something, whereas AI coders might make things worse ... but mostly I'd like to see if ANY world leaders score in the positive.
Similar to some other answers here, but "number of times they've deliberately lied". Not only do you get an instant "trustworthiness" stat, you also get to know if they're lying to you right now.
"I used to try to give them hope, because in this situation, hope... well it's really important... it sounds crazy to say, but often the state of mind can really influence their chances of survival. But, since that lie metric started appearing above people's heads... well now when they ask if there's any chance, I look them right in the eye and say you are fucked, I mean like super fucked."
maybe categorize it into white lie, black lie, red lie, gray lie etc, There is definitely times where a lie "can" be good. It doesn't change the fact that it's a lie but, lies that are made in the attempt to be well intended or to help someone are important to know as well.
Like for example, seeing someone with a really high red lie count would be a warning flag because that means they are willing to lie against their own best interests which can indicate issues with anger or rage. But someone with only white lies, or gray lies would be based less significantly as those are done with well intent to the target, either against or for the liars own best interests.
I mean this is some magic super ability so maybe it would work but if you had to like program it what is white/gray/black is highly subjective. If it uses the persons personal opinion some nasty people would list 0. I bet trump does not believe he has really lied often times. Now if its based on what I would consider white/gray/black that would be nice.
Whether someone thinks it's a lie or not doesn't matter. Although you do bring up a good point. Maybe having an additional category "mistaken lies" or something would help. It would also help decipher how often the person fact checks lol
gray in the case of lies doesn't mean gray areas, a grey lie when identifying lies actually means that the lie benefits both parties without causing harm to either side. A white lie is a lie that benefits the other party at the cost of the liar, a black lie only helps the liar at the cost of the other party, and a red lie hurts both the liar and the other party.
I would say that type of system could only be objective, while the intent does matter as well, I believe a lie that harms the other side, even when you meant otherwise would be either a red or a black lie, since it harms the other it can't be gray or white.
If it's objective truth, sweet! Motherload I can asking anyone the a question to the secrets of the universe and know whether they're wild guess was true!
If it's subjective truth, also useful, but you know just lies or ignorance detector
Just a simple binary 0 or 1 to indicate whether the person means what they said literally or figuratively.
I don't really care to invade people's privacy, even for altruistic-seeming reasons. I just need a hint about how to interpret a person every so often.
You could cheese this by picking a statistic for something like "likelihood to agree if asked for a favor". I'm not going to stress over the wording on how to make it most useful, but something like that could be interesting.
Or something like "amount of undiagnosed cancers" if you want to save people.
Time left to live. There's plenty of useful things that tell you more about a person, but shinigami eyes would let you save lives and know it, even if no one else does
And if it turns out the number can't be changed through your actions, that would tell you a lot. If nothing else, you could say goodbye to loved ones and get incredibly rich by finding a CEO about to run out of time
This reminds me of this animated YT video in which timers are displayed above peoples' heads that show the amount of seconds passed since that person last shit their pants:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WgbI5orsSMY
Over night, social hierarchies are upturned, respect is earned and lost based on that number.
There are plenty of useful things, but I think I'll be a child and say the amount of time since they last farted. Though, that would be useful if you're about to walk into an elevator and you see someone's timer flip back to 0...
Basically, how many spoons someone has left, or how much bad and/or taxing stuff they're capable of bearing today.
This would serve two purposes. One. It'd allow me to communicate more carefully or gently with those who require it, two, it'd give me real time feedback on shit I might've doing that's causing a disproportionate amount of harm to someone else.
Ex: I can be in a wonderful mood and capable of taking all kinds of bad news, but asking me to go out of my way to do an act of service for someone else as a show of affection while I'm in the middle of some self-care after I've spent all day working in a service industry will tank my remaining fucks immediately. I'm absolutely certain that others around me have similar reactions to things that I do, and if I could see what they were, I could stop doing them inadvertently.
ROI being like, if you put effort in are they going to ghost you? or what type of stat are you looking for on your ROI.
I feel like if I had to judge myself my ROI would be pretty low because I'm pretty anti social, but like that's not because I don't want to be friends or am a bad friend I wouldn't say, I just tend to stick to myself unless invited to stuff and hang out in closed groups. So I feel like context on the ROI matters.
Nah half of the time it's "I'm from the future and [thing that nobody could know and which they have never even said or written down], we need you to do XYZ"
Rimworld: ... too much. 2k+. I need better hobbies. :D
I currently have a colony with 6 infertile cat people (3 couples with psychic bonds) who hate other people so much they refuse to recruit anyone, so they all became mechanitors. Randy is an asshole this time, though.
At least their DLC are mostly backwards compatible. Can't play Oxygen Not Included for a few months each time they release a new DLC. I'll get a crack and download my modlist, the moment it gets playable again.
I was going to hold back on this one, but then i read the comments section:
Willingness to give head on a scale of 1-100. the Stat could have different color codes though, so I could "at a glance" some further info. (like bright red means they probably have an STI, regardless of the number, or lavender over a woman means she prefers "tacos" if you catch my meaning, dark green could mean they are down with little convincing, you know, "that sort of thing.")
I'm expecting to confirm my suspicions that the numbers are not as high as the spicy sites would have you believe.
A number representing how positive or negative a person is going to respond to whatever I would speak that's on my mind right now. If it can be updated in real time, you can experiment with basically infinite scenarios on starting or continuing a conversation with someone to determine what's the best dialogue option to proceed with.
Yea, I do agree we would see more services become paywalled as a result. Not that that would be a bad thing though, not every site would go that route, the main reason sites don't already is because they know that the typical user isn't going to pay money to access their site, they will just go elsewhere.
The way I can see it, the ad supported model would go away, then branch into a few ways:
Sites opt for a paywall on the individual scale; but this won't work as the everyday user isn't going to spend $ on every site they visit, so they will just visit sites that don't force a paywall
Sites opt into selective pay packages/subscriptions kind of like how cable worked, where you pay one provider, and it gets distributed across sites based on how much traffic each site got that was involved. I'm unsure how I feel about this route. If it's done right I wouldn't mind but, if it ends up being insane pricing like how cable was I wouldn't participate.
Sites tone down the amount of ads, as the only thing they are making money on now is user data tracking, which doesn't need a bunch of different ads on the system and also doesn't really require user interaction.
The two examples we have aren't great: video streaming and newspapers.
For video streaming, they try to create as much of a monopoly as possible and then extract value from you--enshittification. And even at this early stage, it's not the "ad-free" tier it's "ad-free^*^" tier.
For newspapers, rich people just buy them and blatantly use it for propaganda; they're willing to operate at an official loss if it saves them from regulation or taxes.
I just want a music player indicator to see what they are listening to without have to listen to their music.
What they listen to can be pretty telling.
Would be magic if I could press pause as well, for the people without headphones on the train.
Not truly, but a new idea to them - that they got to using their own devices.
I think there are a lot of politicians that would have a lower number than some hardworking mountain man has.
There's a lot of great choices here. I personally lean towards trustworthiness/if they are being genuine or not with what they are saying, or the net worth one, but since those are taken I'll throw one more into the pot.
This might be more controversial but, a marquee banner with number of crimes committed by type. Nothing super detailed, but like have it say the type of crime, how long its been since committed, and whether they were actually guilty of the charge (not by the laws eyes, whether they actually were guilty of it)
this type of system would be basically useless almost 90% of the time after you have met them once, but, it could be super helpful for determining trustworthiness, how safe you are around them, intention and also whether or not the system failed them or not. It also would significantly speed up the current legal system, as every case would basically be a file the case, show up to the hearing and look at the tag and then verdict instead of spending months sometimes years fighting a lengthy legal battle.
Net worth. Assuming this number is seen by everyone not just me. This would end all keeping up with the Joneses, no posing with sports cars, no super rich people passing as having not enough. But also lots of crimes probably sadly.
You trying to come up with another unoriginal writing prompt?
I'd go with something like "number of times they genuinely helped another person without any obvious personal incentive to do so (excluding the general warm feeling one gets from doing this.)"
I want to know how likely I am to get something from you. You won't stay home, you won't wear a mask, you won't use protection, you won't get vaccinated - you won't be interacted with.
Pedophile or not pedophile. So I guess, how many children theyve gotten sexual gratification from would be the stat. I think I would be absolutely disgusted by that stat though.
I guess if you could figure out something more specific than "this person diddled a kid at some point", you could actually do that. You'd have to do some serious detective work, though.
I remember reading a story about that. A guy did go to therapy and the therapist was not helpful leaving him with few outlets to try and get past this. Wish I had link to reference.
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chunes@lemmy.world · 177 pts · 71d
The last thing they said. I'll never have to say "What?" 4 times in a row again.
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 55 pts · 71d
You win. The amount of times I've wished the real world had subtitles...
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
Hi Taurus, I hope your birthday went well. I'm sorry that it seems I missed it.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 71d
That's closed captioning
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
Huh? Does this come with all people? How do you set it?
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 70d
You need one of those smart glasses, if you can avoid getting punched for wearing them
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 64d
Shit, is this really a feature, because that would actually be super convenient.
sage@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 71d
How about closet captioning?
tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 71d
With the vague rules, I think you can have that bypass language barriers.
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 71d
Phonetic spelling
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 70d
Hell, just put their name, that would be a big help for me.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 71d
Only if the words were intended for you to hear.
I say a lot under my breath to keep from bursting, but also keep from completely roasting the idiots I deal with daily.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Ok, I change my answer.
Akh@lemmy.world · 148 pts · 71d
Number of times they molested kids.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 77 pts · 71d
Monkey paw's finger curls: You can see them. They're EVERYWHERE. People you thought you knew and loved have numbers greater than zero over their head. Despite your horror, you try to make use of the power to try to bring them to justice. No one believes you. You have the Cassandra's curse of the status quo. 'Steve? What are you talking about? He'd never do anything like that. Butter wouldn't melt. You should probably shut your mouth before we get offended about what you said about our friend and kick the shit out of you. Know what I mean?' You watch the news and see everyone who has a position of power over you and your loved ones has a non-zero number. You try to escape into fictional media but your favorite actors are non-zeroes, the author pictures in your favorite books show non-zeroes, the album sleeves of your favorite bands show non-zeroes.
Knowledge can be a burden.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 31 pts · 71d
Justice can be brought without anyone believing a thing you say.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 33 pts · 71d
Ehh. Serial killers tend to only get so far.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 71d
I heard in america, that FBI says there are few serial killers around that never get caught. They probably have a system or lack thereof.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 71d
Yes, there's no real chance they've all been caught. I'd guess risk increases with rate of killing, though, and the status of their victims.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 69d
Given that most solved murders are cases where the victim knew the killer, go out and kill random people with non zero values. Spread it around.
You may eventually get caught. How many is enough to say it was worth it?
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 70d
Meh, take as many as you can out before you go down. I don't see the issue here.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 71d
Then as you live in horror and disgust, you see people's numbers rise day after day, unable to prove to others their horrendous crimes.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 71d
And then you befriend a stranger on the internet. You are nervous at first but you can't see them, so you can imagine their number is zero. You hit it off. They're amazing. Funny. Sweet. Kind. Hardworking. The relationship turns into a distant romance. Then you finally meet. You had no idea the number could go that high.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 69d
Or… you meet up and are flabbergasted by their ZERO. You could not be happier. You get extremely close, get married, have a child together… twins! You’re out overnight with friends, and your partner’s friend comes to visit. You return the next day to find the kids sleeping in and your beloved and their friend having a nice brunch, laughing with each other gleefully with the number two over each of their heads.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 69d
Or x2
You meet up for the first time in real life, and they do not have a number. How could this be? EVERYONE has a number, thank the gods they’re almost always zero! You’re immediately suspicious of their intentions and past actions. They’re not acting anything like they did online… they’re actually acting really fuckin weird, which greatly discomforts you.
You grapple with this internal conundrum, but you had failed to notice something crucial: The instant you saw each other, their eyes so briefly darted up, looking above your head.
sage@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 71d
Wow, that's way more depressing than I could imagine.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 69d
Sow the seeds of suspicion. "Bet he is a pedo". Don't be too pushy. But maybe it will help someone speak out?
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 69d
That's not how monkey's paw twists work.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 48 pts · 71d
We truly live in the worst timeline that this would even be considered.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 71d
What's the point though? We already know the worst offenders without this special power and not a fucking thing is being done about it.
Edit: I misunderstood the question. I thought it was for everyone to be able to see it. Yeah, this would be a good one to have to know who to avoid...
stephen01king@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 71d
Well, now you have to cone up with a bunch of excuses for why you're avoiding people who looked normal to everyone else.
wuffah@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 71d
Jeeeesus Christ! I was thinking like “farts per day” or “no-blinker lane change count”. You’re going straight to the show.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 71d
The worst part would be knowing but unable to prove it.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 69d
Is vigilante justice wrong when you actually know for certainty that they did it?
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 71d
First name.
"Hey Janine, can you move your cart out of the way, thanks, gonna get by here and go get some ice cream sandwiches."
"Excuse me, Ravi, trying to get off the train, one moment, thanks."
"Oh hey, you're a Tanis too, just like me, neat!"
This will absolutely weird everyone out.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 71d
Oh of course I'll play your game Rumplest... random stranger.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 71d
Tanis is a nice name.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 71d
My mom gave it to me!
(And then I kept it when I transitioned, and now she says it’s too feminine and she wishes she didn’t. No backsies, mom! It’s mine and I’ll never be your son.)
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 71d
How thoughtful of your mom to give the little boy version of you a feminine name. She did you a solid without even realizing it lol
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 69d
It's an awesome name and your mom sounds like a butthead!
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 71d
I sounds super nice and (from where I'm standing) not very gendered imho
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
Tanis is a great name. Also the name of my favorite character in the first two borderlands games
QualifiedKitten@discuss.online · 4 pts · 70d
Would it be their preferred name or legal name? What about people who go by different names in different contexts? For example, William at work, but Bill with friends & family? Or stage names? Or professional titles?
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
Since it’s updated in real time, people would get to update that as they see fit. A trans lady who’s not out at work might be Sophie at the bar, but Leon in the office, for example.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 71d
everyone would feel like they are working retail.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 71d
Realtime running count of lies told
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 71d
Similar to the other reply, it's a good idea and seemingly pragmatic, but we could spend a decade arguing over the pedantry of what qualifies as a lie and still not be done.
Truth is tricky
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 71d
Let's start with the times you've said something you know to be untrue.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 71d
I told my nephews that Santa was real
charokol@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
So sarcasm is lying?
fristislurper@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 71d
Does reading the Big Friendly Giant to a nephew count as one big un-truth or many small ones?
charokol@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
How about any statement told with the intent of the recipient believing something about the world that the speaker knows to not be true
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 71d
That's a very good angle, honing in on exactly the problem of lying.
"Intent" could get just as tricky. With all the various forms of psychosis, delusion, etc. it'd be tough to say whether someone "meant" to do something. (It's trickier than we'd usually like to admit even for a typical person.)
The same kind of problems exist around whether the speaker "knows" something to be false.
Then there's the problem of fiction. Bedtime stories, campfire stories...
And not exactly a technical problem, but what about a doctor who knowingly oversimplifies or otherwise intentionally twists his words in an attempt to get the patient to manage their condition optimally? Parents who lie about how something works to help their kids understand something or behave safely? Teachers who oversimplify physics lessons to present it in a way their students can grasp for now. Not exactly a technical problem maybe, but would we want "noble lies" to affect the counter? This is a little off track, just occurred to me and felt like writing it out 🤷♂️
This one doesn't pose a direct problem really but maybe helps me get to my point: what if people who rode a train moving at relativistic speeds when lightning struck both ends talk with someone who was watching from outside about when the lightning struck? Truth is tricky...
But making it, "how often did they attempt to intentionally deceive" as you suggested is a great approach imho. Maybe almost realistic. There's probably some biological indicators of that right? ... for non-psychopaths
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 70d
I am innocent of the blood of this just person. See ye to it.
roger.wood@feddit.online · 5 pts · 71d
It's a great thought and all, but wouldn't authors, actors, and other purveyors of fiction have really large numbers? Every politician would suddenly find a new found joy of reading fiction to children in hospitals.
0ops@piefed.zip · 13 pts · 71d
Nah, fiction isn't lies, not when there's no deceit.
travestyagony@fedinsfw.app · 5 pts · 71d
Realtime. Immediate feedback they just lied to you.
mecen@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 71d
Lie is when you deceive someone, not when creating fictional world. At least this is my option.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Oh, please, mine wouldve stopped counting by middle school.
logos@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 70d
RampantParanoia2366
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 67 pts · 71d
How likely they are to have sex with me this very second behind those bushes over there.
Good God I'm shallow sometimes...
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 71d
"This stupid stat is broken, it just shows 0 for everybody."
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 33 pts · 71d
Laughs in ugly
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 71d
It was easier to program that way. The odds of it ever not being 0 were too small to spend the resources for a proper indicator.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
"Oh, finally, someone with 20%. Wait... is that a negative sign?!"
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 71d
Recency of last wank would be an interesting one
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 71d
friend gets back from the bathroom and their number has gone down near zero
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 71d
My first thought was how attracted they are to me, which I guess is kinda the same thing
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 71d
That's useless, I already know the answer, it's "not at all"
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
It's more useful for some people. Even then, you never know. Attraction is weird sometimes.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 69d
How willingly would they put up with me for a while?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
Oh shit, I didn't think of romantic compatibility.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 71d
man its going to drive you crazy when you are really far from those bushes. like in another country.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 71d
Is "how much I would like them on a scale from 0 to 10 (with a resolution of like 0.01) if I got to know them at a deep level" allowed? Or is that cheating?
TehBamski@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 71d
It's a hypothetical question, so yeah. It can be whatever you want it to be. =)
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 71d
that might be nice, or you might find out you dont know your friends and loved ones as deeply as you thought, and if you did you wouldnt really like them at all.
Artisian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
(Or that most everyone is likable if you invest that time, and everybody is a 9+. The horror of finding that your political boogiemen are certainly charismatic and kind to their friends...)
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 71d
I'm here to toot for the "lifetime farts" number
fork@feddit.online · 23 pts · 71d
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 71d
«WARNING: FART INCOMING»
bacon_saber@fedia.io · 7 pts · 71d
MOVE OUT OF THE A.O.E.!!!
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 70d
No, I can tank it.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 71d
Elevators just got a lot more stressful
fork@feddit.online · 10 pts · 71d
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 71d
It would be fun to publically count down lol.
0ops@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 71d
No good, you've gotta go by volume. 2,578,016 cubic meters of fart.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 71d
Do we get a prize for having the highest number?
Asking for a friend
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 71d
A recent number would be more useful; last hour, last day. They might have had a food intolerance in the past which pushed the number stratospheric which they have since learned to avoid
(Me, wheat)
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 71d
all the others seem a lot more invasive, so I'll go with their pronouns/gender so I never have to ask and be awkward
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 71d
then you start causing problems clocking and accidentally outing eggs and closeted trans people all over the place. even with perfect knowledge theres always politics...
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 71d
If it was accurate enough, and they kinda knew, but hadn't fully acknowledge it themselves yet, you might out them to themselves even?
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 71d
yeah exactly. we all kinda know on some level, even if we dont really know ya know?
NessaSola@eviltoast.org · 1 pts · 69d
That's friction right away, but the resulting social change would be pretty interesting to see
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
And then ill still forget their names and have to ask and be awkward
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
It's not awkward to ask, I appreciate it when people do. I use any of them so it's awkward to respond, but it's nice that people care hahah.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 71d
what happens when you see none?!
mp3@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 71d
% of how genuine they are with me, easy to figure out who's worth the time and who isn't.
Could be a problem in a relationship tho. I take it back, just the cumulative numbers of fart in a lifetime.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 71d
The "genuineness" statistic sounds like the sort of thing that would gradually drive me insane.
I'd probably end up staring into the mirror and seeing an abysmally low number for myself.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 71d
And you find the one person who's 100%, but actually they're a dick. It seems like they'd be a dick.
Like, I'd be unusually high (and it's gone poorly), but I still purposely don't say certain things.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 70d
Ive been kinda obsessed with truth my whole life and I recognize the more I do not speak truth the less I can recognize what it. It is problematic for sure. Its good we can choose not to speak.
gingersaffronapricat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
Ime some honest people speak the truth but don’t suck up or try to sell it. But are passed by for people who flatter and put on a show.
Melobol@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 71d
I love and hate this one, really a good monkey's paw one!
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 71d
the units for farts would be interesting. i would ask for total mass of fart for a more understandable value. number of farts would be kind of ambiguous cause someone could have lots of little farts or few huge farts. some asshole would choose those asinine equivalent volume units favored by the compressed gases industry, which no one would really understand.
Aerosol3215@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 71d
Some asshole has been farting in my pants all day...
tuckerm@feddit.online · 37 pts · 71d
Some kind of "empathy score." Not sure what the formula would be, but it would reflect how readily they feel empathy for another person, and how many other people they can care about.
A narcissist would have a 0 -- they can only care about themself. Someone with very limited empathy would have a small number -- say, they can only care about their immediate family, and they need to really get to know someone before they care about that person. People who naturally care about others, even if they don't know the other person, would have high numbers.
This number would sometimes just flat out tell you that certain people should be avoided, or certain conversations are pointless with that person. Or if you do need to try to convince them of something, the number may show you how to frame the conversation. E.g., show how it's in their own interest if they have a low number.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 71d
I can't tell if that would end up depressing the crap out of me or making me feel better about the world. My pessimistic brain tells me there are far more un-empathic people in the world than I'd like to acknowledge.
leadore@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 71d
The only problem with this stat showing is that the fascists would know who to throw into the concentration camps.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d
I thought that only you can see this stat, not everyone else. It's an issue of privacy violation otherwise.
leadore@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
Oh, I didn't see any other rules specified in the question :) So, isn't the fact that I can see everyone's stat above their head already a privacy violation to begin with? Also, am I the only one who gets to see a chosen stat or can other people also choose a stat that only they can see?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 70d
It doesn't specify, but if everyone could see it the implications would be more pressing than the question itself. If only one person, or just a select few people, in the world can see it it's not a widespread privacy violation. Just like only a select few people are (supposed) to have access to private information in the real world for it to not be a privacy violation.
Presumably with questions like others can see different stats if they chose one. And even if only you saw it you could be super unethical and MAKE it a widespread privacy violation by showing social security, credit card, etc. info and stealing whatever you could as much as you could.
leadore@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
Yeah, but those select few are given access for a specific need, like to be able to give you health care or pay your salary, etc. If even just a few randos could see whatever stat they want about all of us for no reason than their own wishes, I'd definitely consider that a violation of our privacy, even if they kept the info to themselves and even more so if it was something they could exploit. But all this is getting away from the spirit of the question.
seggturkasz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
This! You would be able to see who's trusting and caring? Perfect for scaming people all day, every day! I love it!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
No, not really. There are a LOT of very unempathic people who are super easy to scam (MAGA), and being empathetic doesn't mean you fall for scams easily. You'd want something like a gullibility score for that.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 71d
Oh awesome. I'd love something like that, and do think we need to kind of train every person to understand and analyze others empathy better. Because this is a major problem when selecting, voting or promoting people into position of power. Every time there is a competition for a promotion, the ones that care the least about anything but more power or money or influence will be statistically more likely to advance. The more self serving the better. So at the top end you have function sociopaths who are very adept at lying about themselves or even to themselves.
Detecting purely self-serving or greedy people would be awesome and should be taught and trained for in school as basic political education. You know like math or PT is taught and trained. And candidates for political power should be put through some kind of "psychological gauntlet" to make it at least more likely they show they care or believe in something besides gaining more power.
It might also be possible to create a kind of AI models to evaluate and analyze people seeking power. Like some sort of lie detector test observing every reaction and every word and tonal shift in a conversation with the machine. Something like the interrogation in Blade Runner or "The Expanse" Season 1. Of course a bit of a ludicrous idea.
Might be better to just pick someone at random, quite likely to get better world leaders like that.
But this remains a fundamental problem of any hierarchical system, no matter if capitalism or socialism. We are now in an age where humanity can easily destroy itself, and we have collectively chosen, or proven unable, to save ourselves from the existential danger of climate change. And despite our "advances in ethics" in general, we're still ruled by total shits. And no matter what system we choose the problem will persist. Lack of empathy is a very strong indicator for that.
Sorry for the long rant lol
FYI, I believe you use narcissist wrong, because generally they "weaponize empathy" to manipulate people. They absolutely need to maintain a false glamorous mirror image of their own ego (or they die) and will use all sorts of rationalizations or delusions to keep that up. From a young age they need to pretend and for that they need to read people very well. And as long as they see you as one of the awesome people they'll charm you, but if they see you as one of the shit people they'll flip and treat you like dirt. And no amount of time will change that lol.
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
I'd add in a modifier for people on the spectrum. Like, the number is low, but that's due to an underdeveloped social ability, not because they are sociopaths.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 70d
A narcissist has a lot of empathy... for themself. A racist has a lot of empathy for people of their own race, but zero empathy for people of certain races.
BodePlotHole@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 71d
A scale of 1-10 at how likely we could be friends.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 18 pts · 71d
Put me in horny jail, but I think the world would be a better place if we could see a measure of how likely we could be mating partners.
lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
I imagine everyone would be surprised by the number of 8's, 9's, and 10's.
We're very good at making friends when we try.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
The way it works doesn't even involve compatibility, so much. It's just how much you've conversed over time without incident, like monkeys grooming each other.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 71d
The time and date of their death.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 45 pts · 71d
It would be interesting to see this update in realtime. You see someone about to get in their car, with a death time 5 mins from now. You call out "hey", they stop, see you were talking to someone else. The date updates to 30 years in the future, as that momentary pause meant they won't be in the place they would have when someone runs a red light.
Somewhere unseen, someone's number changes from 20 years away to 5 mins away.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 71d
My thought was that it would be immutable. It wouldn't change even if I told them.
I don't think I'd tell very many people. It's not something I'd want people to know about me. Also, the few I told wouldn't believe me and if I proved to others that I knew this, I think they'd see me, rightly so, as some sort of freak. The temptation to ask would be overwhelming, but they don't really want to know.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 71d
It kind of ruins the concept if you can't use the information to change the outcome. Or maybe just makes it sad, every time you try to save someone they die at that time anyway. Then over time you work out that the clock knew what actions you were going to do, and by trying to interfere with the people with short times you actually caused their deaths.
psud@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 71d
Very Cassandra to have knowledge of the future but be unable to change it
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 71d
You can't change fate but maybe can change how ppl meet it?
Like If you knew someone was going to die maybe help them bring them peace sooner.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 70d
Or maybe if you knew your own date you could do reckless shit. Although you might just spend 20 years in a coma before you die.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 68d
Lol that twist ending i never thought of. Know I need to define death prior to making that wish.
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org · 3 pts · 71d
Nah, if they miss their appointment [the plot of final destination]
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 71d
Add location too, otherwise that's just cruel.
"You're going to die in 2 days!"
"Oh god, how? Where? Why?"
"No idea, get fucked scrub!"
psud@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 71d
They die of fretting at home, alone
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 71d
or from to much hookers and blow.
48954246@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Having kids makes this a burden IMO. It would be very difficult to know that any of my kids would die before me let alone the exact time
Doom@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 71d
An icon to indicate if they washed their hands after the last time they used the bathroom.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 34 pts · 71d
Healthbar.
"Hey, fuck you! I'm gonna kick your ass, man!"
"Mighty big talk for someone who only has 4hp."
groet@feddit.org · 7 pts · 71d
Since HP were originally invented as how many "equvalent penetrative 14 inch shells" are needed to sink a ship, its save to assume, every human has 1HP.
I am basing this fact on the only legitimate source on the internet. Brian David Gilbert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jcxc-ddWKI&t=63
Burninator05@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Sure they only have 4 hp but their hidden ap is high enough to tank whatever you think you can do.
redwattlebird@thelemmy.club · 32 pts · 71d
A boolean indicating if they want a conversation or not
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 71d
Number of cumulative years they would be imprisoned for, had they been caught and convicted of every single crime they ever committed.
I'm betting most adults are not at zero.
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 71d
Human or Not Human
felsiq@piefed.zip · 28 pts · 71d
How willing they are to talk to you right now. You can always pick the right person to talk to if you need to ask a question, give a friend the exact amount of space they need if they’re going thru something, and easily identify people that are interested in you (or not). Best of all, though, you can spot someone who’s a little too eager to talk and avoid a hostage-style conversation where they won’t let you leave politely
mrcleanup@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 71d
Your eyes scan the room, skimming the numbers. Everyone is in their own conversation, 20, 35, 15, nothing promising until you spot an 85. Their back is turned but you make your way through the crowd to their side of the room. You say "Hey", and they turn, and as soon at they see you their number starts to drop. 75, 60 45, 10. Ouch, sometimes you wonder why you even try.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 71d
oh man, actually yea, not the person who suggested it but, that lowkey would suck so hard.
Then again mine would be broken at like a 5-10 the majority of the time so I wouldn't have to worry XD
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 71d
ladybugs@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 70d
None. Someday, some company will build and sell a tool that actually does that, and it will be hella privacy invasive. Actually, it'll probably just be another invasive feature added to the Ray Ban perv glasses.
DougPiranha42@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 71d
HP bar, level, and whether they have aggro
danciestlobster@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 71d
It would also be helpful to know how much mana they have left
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 71d
Number of racial slurs used genuinely.
_fryerDan@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 71d
aw man that would be rough for those of us who were raised by terrible people but learned how to be a better human
plaztek@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 71d
I feel a better one would be amount of time since the last slur was used, or number used in the past 30 days or something.
snooggums@piefed.world · 24 pts · 71d
12304 days since last racist incident
FishFace@piefed.social · 9 pts · 71d
When I was a kid I was once horribly racist to someone but I... was really bad at it? I didn't know any slurs I don't think, so I said "at least I'm not black" (the girl was Asian). Still feel bad about it though :( Not seen her for decades.
petrichornetrainfall@piefed.social · 23 pts · 71d
A percentage of how much our core values/morals/beliefs align, weighted by how important they are to us.
It would make it super easy to know upfront who I should include in my life and who I shouldnt.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 71d
I feel like almost everyone agrees on the biggest several except those corrupted by politics
And those with wrong politics usually show that pretty quickly
raspirate@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 71d
Total net worth. No hidden assets or secret bank accounts. Every last cent that a person is worth. Also, it gets brighter/more noticeable whenever you're advocating for something that increases your net worth.
I feel like this would be the only way to get a lot of people to connect the dots.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 71d
It would need to include intangible wealth too, though. One of the big 20th century studies on poverty concluded there's a great deal of social mobility, because rich nepobabies on a gap year or at university were counted as having no income. (And if they'd been looking at wealth, maybe not much in their own name there, either)
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 71d
Number of times they've lied
uKale@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 71d
A sort of hunger bar. It would be useful in so many situations.
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 71d
Yes! Differentiating hangry from true disagreeableness could really help prevent misunderstandings.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 4 pts · 71d
not my favorite but it likely would get me to carry granola bars on me at all times.
memfree@piefed.social · 18 pts · 71d
Quality of Life impact: How much damage (or benefit) their actions (work, lifestyle, whatever) have done for the net quality of life across the globe. I figure anyone who drives to work is probably doing a little more harm than good, but perhaps they make up for it by being a good school teacher or something, whereas AI coders might make things worse ... but mostly I'd like to see if ANY world leaders score in the positive.
mdalin@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 71d
Similar to some other answers here, but "number of times they've deliberately lied". Not only do you get an instant "trustworthiness" stat, you also get to know if they're lying to you right now.
barooboodoo@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 71d
This stat is useless for anyone that's worked customer service though.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 7 pts · 71d
Or for salesmen. Or lawyers.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 71d
not as long as its real time.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 71d
I'd be screwed, I'm polite
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
"I used to try to give them hope, because in this situation, hope... well it's really important... it sounds crazy to say, but often the state of mind can really influence their chances of survival. But, since that lie metric started appearing above people's heads... well now when they ask if there's any chance, I look them right in the eye and say you are fucked, I mean like super fucked."
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d
maybe categorize it into white lie, black lie, red lie, gray lie etc, There is definitely times where a lie "can" be good. It doesn't change the fact that it's a lie but, lies that are made in the attempt to be well intended or to help someone are important to know as well.
Like for example, seeing someone with a really high red lie count would be a warning flag because that means they are willing to lie against their own best interests which can indicate issues with anger or rage. But someone with only white lies, or gray lies would be based less significantly as those are done with well intent to the target, either against or for the liars own best interests.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 71d
I mean this is some magic super ability so maybe it would work but if you had to like program it what is white/gray/black is highly subjective. If it uses the persons personal opinion some nasty people would list 0. I bet trump does not believe he has really lied often times. Now if its based on what I would consider white/gray/black that would be nice.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d
It would be based off objectivity, not belief.
Whether someone thinks it's a lie or not doesn't matter. Although you do bring up a good point. Maybe having an additional category "mistaken lies" or something would help. It would also help decipher how often the person fact checks lol
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 70d
there really is not objectivity with white grey black lies because everyone has different lines. Its why you even need the gray area.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 70d
gray in the case of lies doesn't mean gray areas, a grey lie when identifying lies actually means that the lie benefits both parties without causing harm to either side. A white lie is a lie that benefits the other party at the cost of the liar, a black lie only helps the liar at the cost of the other party, and a red lie hurts both the liar and the other party.
I would say that type of system could only be objective, while the intent does matter as well, I believe a lie that harms the other side, even when you meant otherwise would be either a red or a black lie, since it harms the other it can't be gray or white.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 70d
yeah maybe. this is new lie territory for me.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 70d
Times they told the truth.
If it's objective truth, sweet! Motherload I can asking anyone the a question to the secrets of the universe and know whether they're wild guess was true!
If it's subjective truth, also useful, but you know just lies or ignorance detector
Chozo@fedia.io · 17 pts · 71d
horny%
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 71d
finally. how come I had to scroll so far down to see this. Im a bit old for it but if I gained this ability at like 16. nice.
Zacryon@feddit.org · 16 pts · 70d
Asshole ratio: 0 % = best person in the world.
100 % = worst person in the world.
Computed as an average of bad "actions" with respect to all actions.
Good and bad evaluated with respect to proven positive impact on people's lifes and the planet.
wakko@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 71d
Just a simple binary 0 or 1 to indicate whether the person means what they said literally or figuratively.
I don't really care to invade people's privacy, even for altruistic-seeming reasons. I just need a hint about how to interpret a person every so often.
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 70d
Their name.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 70d
Threat level.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 15 pts · 70d
You could cheese this by picking a statistic for something like "likelihood to agree if asked for a favor". I'm not going to stress over the wording on how to make it most useful, but something like that could be interesting.
Or something like "amount of undiagnosed cancers" if you want to save people.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 15 pts · 70d
Time left to live. There's plenty of useful things that tell you more about a person, but shinigami eyes would let you save lives and know it, even if no one else does
And if it turns out the number can't be changed through your actions, that would tell you a lot. If nothing else, you could say goodbye to loved ones and get incredibly rich by finding a CEO about to run out of time
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 70d
Number of days since they finished reading a book.
LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub · 15 pts · 71d
KDR
Artisian@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 71d
Their net benefit (or harm) to humanity; measured in QALYs.
A generalization on the crimes score, but it also tells me who to befriend. I'm not a utilitarian, but it still seems like helpful data.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 70d
moralistic integrity in comparison to social norms.
it's basically a good vs evil bar.
vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 71d
lifetime number of orgasms
Triumph@fedia.io · 11 pts · 71d
How much of a dick they've been over the past six months.
kibblebits@quokk.au · 8 pts · 71d
Your number would break the system.
Triumph@fedia.io · 10 pts · 71d
Fuck you shut up
0ops@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 71d
Big Dick Triumph
...hey, not a bad band name
LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub · 11 pts · 70d
This reminds me of this animated YT video in which timers are displayed above peoples' heads that show the amount of seconds passed since that person last shit their pants: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WgbI5orsSMY
fraksken@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 71d
Horniness
banause@feddit.org · 10 pts · 71d
Average shit weight per session.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 2 pts · 71d
In kilogrammes or US units?
banause@feddit.org · 4 pts · 71d
Latter would be recursive.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 71d
US units? Like the totally legit boulders the weight of smaller boulders weight measurement?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 71d
To be fair, we're not the ones who use "stone" as a measurement
Scrollone@feddit.it · 1 pts · 71d
Stone is used in the UK only for weighting people, at least.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 71d
Honor
mlg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
I don't know why, but I really like this answer lol
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 71d
Binary (has or doesn't) or percentage?
plaztek@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 71d
There are plenty of useful things, but I think I'll be a child and say the amount of time since they last farted. Though, that would be useful if you're about to walk into an elevator and you see someone's timer flip back to 0...
leftascenter@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 71d
Pros fart one floor before descending so the smell starts spreading as they walk out.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 71d
Any time in seconds would be a warning
mr_account@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 71d
Fable-style morality bar to track good and bad deeds, but no cap on how high or low that value goes
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 71d
then you run into a good place afterlife points problem and you find that everyone is some degree of bad...
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 71d
ah. like how many times they said the lords name in vain or were a coward and did not go into battle.
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 71d
Their Rise of Kingdoms battle score.
gothic_lemons@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 71d
The number of times we've farted at the same time.
Kiernian@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 70d
Fucks left to give.
Basically, how many spoons someone has left, or how much bad and/or taxing stuff they're capable of bearing today.
This would serve two purposes. One. It'd allow me to communicate more carefully or gently with those who require it, two, it'd give me real time feedback on shit I might've doing that's causing a disproportionate amount of harm to someone else.
Ex: I can be in a wonderful mood and capable of taking all kinds of bad news, but asking me to go out of my way to do an act of service for someone else as a show of affection while I'm in the middle of some self-care after I've spent all day working in a service industry will tank my remaining fucks immediately. I'm absolutely certain that others around me have similar reactions to things that I do, and if I could see what they were, I could stop doing them inadvertently.
ThisIsTheOther1@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 71d
Trustworthiness. It would be great to know if you can trust someone upfront.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 71d
Their greatest insecurity, maybe? I could compliment cool people on it to make them feel better and use it to lampoon assholes.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
I had a similar thought of like a score of how much they like themselves.
Seems pretty invasive but I think it would be a reminder to be patient and kind.
farmgineer@nord.pub · 8 pts · 71d
A meter (percentage) of the truthfulness of their statement.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 71d
RIP white lies
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 70d
Number of farts in their lives.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 69d
Lies per hour
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 7 pts · 70d
How many people's livelihood can be affected by their decision.
Mac@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 71d
Many other good answers have already been spoken. Here's a thought:
Friendship ROI
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d
ROI being like, if you put effort in are they going to ghost you? or what type of stat are you looking for on your ROI.
I feel like if I had to judge myself my ROI would be pretty low because I'm pretty anti social, but like that's not because I don't want to be friends or am a bad friend I wouldn't say, I just tend to stick to myself unless invited to stuff and hang out in closed groups. So I feel like context on the ROI matters.
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 71d
If you make the emotional investment low the return can still be good
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 71d
Their name followed by the exact thing I would need to say to get then to do what I want, under a removable censor bar like how people hide spoilers.
felsiq@piefed.zip · 15 pts · 71d
Every time you expand the spoiler, the text just says “I’m wearing a bomb, do what I say”
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 71d
Nah half of the time it's "I'm from the future and [thing that nobody could know and which they have never even said or written down], we need you to do XYZ"
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 71d
im going to say the top one is going to be. and I will pay you hamdsomely for it. half now half when its done.
ZERONOVABLOSSOM@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 71d
How many times they’ve used the restroom and not washed their hands afterwards.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 71d
I'm amazed you want to know; as a user of the male facilities you'd see the number of times the man has used the loo on more than half men
em2@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 71d
Kindness gestures. I like to see the good in people and this would just confirm that (in most cases).
echolalia@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 71d
Number or hours spent playing dwarf fortress or rimworld
Easier to find my people: weird nerds
wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Dwarf Fortress: 0
Rimworld: ... too much. 2k+. I need better hobbies. :D
I currently have a colony with 6 infertile cat people (3 couples with psychic bonds) who hate other people so much they refuse to recruit anyone, so they all became mechanitors. Randy is an asshole this time, though.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 71d
At least their DLC are mostly backwards compatible. Can't play Oxygen Not Included for a few months each time they release a new DLC. I'll get a crack and download my modlist, the moment it gets playable again.
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 70d
I was going to hold back on this one, but then i read the comments section:
Willingness to give head on a scale of 1-100. the Stat could have different color codes though, so I could "at a glance" some further info. (like bright red means they probably have an STI, regardless of the number, or lavender over a woman means she prefers "tacos" if you catch my meaning, dark green could mean they are down with little convincing, you know, "that sort of thing.")
I'm expecting to confirm my suspicions that the numbers are not as high as the spicy sites would have you believe.
fireweed@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 70d
Answers in this thread:
Goofy
Unquantifiable using any sort of objective metric
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 70d
Limit underbreak brave quotient
enchantedgoldapple@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 71d
A number representing how positive or negative a person is going to respond to whatever I would speak that's on my mind right now. If it can be updated in real time, you can experiment with basically infinite scenarios on starting or continuing a conversation with someone to determine what's the best dialogue option to proceed with.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
Way too easy to manipulate people.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 71d
Does it have to be a number, or can it be a named category, like current goal?
That would basically be a cheat code in all social relationships.
Today@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
Asshole meter.
sanguinepar@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 71d
Everyone would just have a 1
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 71d
Fear the man whose count is 0. Or don't.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
More than 1 can also happen.
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 71d
Colostomy bag people
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
Maybe net worth. I feel like there's a lot that can be done with that, good and bad.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
If that could translate to ad buys, it would mean I'd only see advertisements for scams, because I have no money for anything else.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
omg I'm not sure if this is exactly what you meant but,
I would love a metric above their head that states how many times an advertisement has actually worked on them, vs how many they have seen.
I think it would revolutionize the way we see ads today, because I think almost everyone would have significantly low numbers.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
I think everyone knows that advertising is relatively ineffective on a per-view basis, but they're hoping it at least pays for itself...
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d
Yea, but im hoping the constant re-enforcement that it doesn't work will sway them away from wanting to spend on advertisement in the first place.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
That would have interesting knock-on effects for ad-supported services....
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
Yea, I do agree we would see more services become paywalled as a result. Not that that would be a bad thing though, not every site would go that route, the main reason sites don't already is because they know that the typical user isn't going to pay money to access their site, they will just go elsewhere.
The way I can see it, the ad supported model would go away, then branch into a few ways:
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
The two examples we have aren't great: video streaming and newspapers.
For video streaming, they try to create as much of a monopoly as possible and then extract value from you--enshittification. And even at this early stage, it's not the "ad-free" tier it's "ad-free^*^" tier.
For newspapers, rich people just buy them and blatantly use it for propaganda; they're willing to operate at an official loss if it saves them from regulation or taxes.
CynicalNihilist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
How long till they die. could be used in good and bad ways but I think knowing is better than being oblivious.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
This is great if you glimpse celebrities at events and then bet on it.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
Probably tomorrow's weather, because then I'd never have to look it up.
treadful@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 71d
How many individual dicks have been in their mouth.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
In a row?
Clutter@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 70d
Happiness.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
Sleep, or how tired or awake they are.
Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 70d
Lifetime Intrusive thoughts counter
nullify3112@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 69d
I just want a music player indicator to see what they are listening to without have to listen to their music. What they listen to can be pretty telling.
Would be magic if I could press pause as well, for the people without headphones on the train.
Unlearned9545@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
Number of hugs
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
Percentage on how likely someone is to be caught if they were murdered along with the coordinates of that location 48 hours from current time.
Just for curiosity.
Or maybe what everyone else said about farts or something
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
My chances to score
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 71d
That's a dangerous number in isolation.
erb013kt@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 70d
Percentage of personal wealth donated in the last year to an org or person that they are not affiliated with.
justanotheruser4@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
Last time they had sex
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Dick size
merc@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 71d
Luckily, you can just see if they drive a truck or not.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 71d
Current size or maximum?
Michal@programming.dev · 3 pts · 70d
Tiredness level
nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 70d
blood sugar
Bitflip@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 71d
IQ
Melobol@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 71d
That's too easy to measure on your own. Maybe # of original ideas they ever had?
Bitflip@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 71d
How about the number of times they've ever been confidently incorrect 🤣
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 71d
Like, truly original? It would usually be a way lower number than you'd expect.
So much stuff dies at the implementation phase.
Melobol@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 70d
Not truly, but a new idea to them - that they got to using their own devices.
I think there are a lot of politicians that would have a lower number than some hardworking mountain man has.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
Ehh. It means a lot, but also not everything, or even the most. And, there's good evidence people segregate themselves by it naturally.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 71d
There's a lot of great choices here. I personally lean towards trustworthiness/if they are being genuine or not with what they are saying, or the net worth one, but since those are taken I'll throw one more into the pot.
This might be more controversial but, a marquee banner with number of crimes committed by type. Nothing super detailed, but like have it say the type of crime, how long its been since committed, and whether they were actually guilty of the charge (not by the laws eyes, whether they actually were guilty of it)
this type of system would be basically useless almost 90% of the time after you have met them once, but, it could be super helpful for determining trustworthiness, how safe you are around them, intention and also whether or not the system failed them or not. It also would significantly speed up the current legal system, as every case would basically be a file the case, show up to the hearing and look at the tag and then verdict instead of spending months sometimes years fighting a lengthy legal battle.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 70d
who they voted for
Strider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
The date they will die.
Various reasons.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 71d
Tumescence.
Nomad@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 71d
Net worth. Assuming this number is seen by everyone not just me. This would end all keeping up with the Joneses, no posing with sports cars, no super rich people passing as having not enough. But also lots of crimes probably sadly.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 71d
Lots of us have large net worth locked up in our home, in done age groups it'll tell you nearly nothing
bless@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 69d
Time since last fart. Then I know if who smelt it did indeed deal it
shutz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 71d
You trying to come up with another unoriginal writing prompt?
I'd go with something like "number of times they genuinely helped another person without any obvious personal incentive to do so (excluding the general warm feeling one gets from doing this.)"
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
SAT Score.
Purely for dick-measuring.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 69d
Contagion level.
I want to know how likely I am to get something from you. You won't stay home, you won't wear a mask, you won't use protection, you won't get vaccinated - you won't be interacted with.
lukaro@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 69d
Interest level in current conversation. Not so much so I can see others but more so they can see mine.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 71d
Personality score.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 71d
It seems like an invasion but how about an indi cation of child offences
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
"Minutes remaining".
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 71d
Pedophile or not pedophile. So I guess, how many children theyve gotten sexual gratification from would be the stat. I think I would be absolutely disgusted by that stat though.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 71d
Yeah, and what are you going to do with it, tell the police "it's magic, trust me bro"?
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 71d
I read a few stories where anonymous tip led to something.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
I guess if you could figure out something more specific than "this person diddled a kid at some point", you could actually do that. You'd have to do some serious detective work, though.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 71d
I mean you don't have to get defensive. Go see a therapist if you find little kids sexually attractive 🤮
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 68d
I remember reading a story about that. A guy did go to therapy and the therapist was not helpful leaving him with few outlets to try and get past this. Wish I had link to reference.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 71d
Aww, I love you too.