While that will certainly happen, it won't end the environment that created him or the interests he represents. A brief respite, is as optimistic as I dare to be.
I'm just looking forward to not hearing him voice his pedo rapist opinions anymore. It's a particular frequency that just won't exist anymore once his pedo mouth is permanently silenced.
They've burned a lot of political capital with a lot of people, though.. gonna take them time to usher in that much political will from the swing voters and a few key voting blocks
Actually, you mentioning that specific trait of him reminded me that the FBI and other American autorities have been protecting the pedos and the pedo ring by covering up their activities for decades, much longer than Trump has been President and through both Republican and Democrat administrations.
Which kinda reinforces the point of the previous poster about the environment that created them and the interests he represents - they've been there for much longer than he's had power and clearly they're neither changing nor leaving.
No. You’ll get 20 new clowns all fighting to be the new king. With luck they’ll eat each other as they step on the backs of everyone else. You want to see change, project 2025 needs to burn.
A number of people are clearly already trying. They are all failing miserably. Amazingly, none of them have as much charisma, at least not with such a wide audience.
Trump also represents a pretty impressive combination of horrible, charismatic, and authentic.
He is truly, truly horrible. He embodies the ugliness that a lot of people see in the world and in themselves, and is willing to cause harm to the world around him in a way that they wish they could.
He is, in his own utterly fucked up way, charismatic. He's eager to aggressively beclown himself for applause and to sell his poison in a way that Stephen Miller or Ron DeSantis couldn't match.
He's authentically awful. Every word he says serves his own corrupt enrichment and aggrandizement, and he makes no secret of that, even when telling lies. When he's lying, he's obviously lying. When he's stupid, he's authentically stupid, not pretending.
Voters are very sensitive to all three of those categories, and they can tell when someone isn't entirely any one of them. Trump is the rare beast to max out all three.
Anyone smarter will damage the country differently. There is currently an economic force pushing the US toward a future where its citizens are separated and specific groups disenfranchised to pull money toward the ultra-wealthy and major voting blocs. Fewer overtly stupid decisions, plenty of horrors to come.
It's rare for cults to survive after their leader dies.
I don't see the movement continuing. Some will rally to the new face, but many won't.
Even today support for Trump is slowly waning with his base growing smaller. The issue with the American system is he can lose all support today and continue. Even if dems retake a majority in the Senate it takes 2/3rds vote to remove the president.
I subscribe to a gaming podcast called Nexlander; they have a subscription tier where they’ll read off your name at the end of their main weekly podcast. Every week one of the names is “Maybe today is the day it finally happens” and I have one singular thought every single time that handle is read aloud.
I recently saw a post that simply said "Somebody should do it soon" ... and everybody automatically understood what 'it' was and whom it should be done to.
They didn't say you couldn't. They just pointed out that you don't need to see the name to know exactly who the post is referring to. Not every thread needs to be about reddit grievances.
My thoughts exactly. I will totally celebrate Trump's death, but anyone who thinks its going to change anything for the better in any substantial way is sadly oblivious. In fact it frustrates me that so many people seem to think everything will be fine once Trump dies. Already the seeds of inaction and complacency are sewn.
the problem is that trump has advanced the republican agenda by 300 miles (to use a convenient conversational example), and when he dies, the advance will falter and fall back to maybe 250 miles.
and the fools will celebrate that as a return to normalcy and a victory, ignorant to the 250 miles of advancement they made, secured, and locked down by their complacency.
Judging by what happenned after the last Trump presidency, I think your expectation that over 80% of what he and his party have done will be actually undone by a Democrat POTUS is incredibly optimistic.
My bet would be at most 10% - so 300 miles his way and only 30 miles back after him.
You don't get it. Without dear leader they fall apart. They don't have anyone to replace him, at least no one their voters care even half as much about as him. The cult will die with him and that is a HUGE opportunity to capitalize on.
Nah bro, I wish, but nah. The damage is done. Don't you see? The cult, Trump, all that was the booster rocket. This shit is in stable orbit now. It doesn't matter what happens to that apparatus anymore.
A horrible, horrible symptom killing that diseased country even faster and making it spread even more and nastier efflusions all around than usual, but none the less somebody like him would never have reached that position if America wasn't already profoundly sick.
If the disease isn't cured all that will happen is that another one like him is bound to get the post in at most 8 years after a caretaker POTUS that does nothing to undo the shit he did, same as last time.
It won’t be fine, but no one else has whatever twisted mind control is necessary to control the worshippers. I’m sure they’ll try to apply things smarter, they’ll get the backing of their billionaire owner, but it’s not intelligence that made all this happen, not ability. It’s all the sycophants and grifters falling inline and that won’t happen for someone else
It's also simply untrue - it took much more time for information to travel, and no one was 'celebrating' 9/11 aside from... well, you should know the types.
The only people confirmed to have been dancing in the streets in response to 9/11 were confirmed mossad agents. Israel tried to show videos of Muslims and Arabs celebrating the attacks, but all of them were people actually celebrating sports teams or weddings.
Yeah I don't know about any of that, but it doesn't surprise me - they are quite ghoulish. Steelmanning, even if the Muslim and Arab people were celebrating - that still doesn't count as global celebrations.
Man stops at a newsagent every day to read the headlines but never buys a paper.
When asked, he says "I'm looking for an obituary."
When the newsagent tells him obituaries aren't on the front pages he says
"The one I'm looking for will be."
I've been looking forward to his death too but the more I think about it, it's a mistake to think his death will somehow change the direction things are going
America is conveniently putting all the blame on Trump and ignoring that it took a lot of people to put Anerica in the position it's in. If the problem were JUST Trump, he wouldn't have come anywhere close to being elected. A sane country would have reacted to his behaviour by laughing him off and never giving him any votes or airtime. Trump is in power because an alarming number of Americans (not necessarily a majority, but a lot) agree with him
I've always been annoyed by people wanting to go back in time and kill Hitler. If it wasn't Hitler, it just would have been someone else. There's this strange persistent myth that if we get rid of one evil man, it all goes away. Hitler didn't singlehandedly kill 11 million people. 11 million people aren't rounded up and killed because one man decided to do it, it required people to go along with it
I mean, of course, then again uniting under a single banner/man does make the faction stronger, under him they simply can't make any mistake, someone else would have a harder time getting away with the same things.
This does not take anything away from how evil they are and how they still exist and will after him
Why would someone else have a harder time getting away with stuff? What is special about Trump? I legit don't understand how he gets away with things that supposedly nobody else would. Has he made a deal with the devil for immunity from all possible consequences? I'm legitimately asking, why is he different?
The powerful people that run the world don't care about the bad things he has done. They have a different moral code than everyone else and its pretty fucked.
Yeah he just made a deal with the devil... Nah, in all seriousness it's the way he appeals to the uneducated and hateful masses. You can't replicate his special mix of pure hatred and greed inorganically. It isn't that there can't be another, more so that no one even remotely in a position where they could take over doesn't have the same undeniable sway. They'll stop being so united.
Doesn't mean they'll stop being a threat, it'll just mean it's a bit easier to deal with
Its obvious the big big money players are driving his agenda.
They are daring the poor people to fight for their existence.
PS: re: Hitler. Go back in time. Take meth and cash. Find hitler. Get him on meth, buy enough art to get him notoriety, teach him punk music, let punk music advance egalitarian freedom and anarchy, so fascism has harder time gaining traction.
I would blame the non voters and misinformation and the complacency of it more.
The reps are evil in nature and simply feed on such opportunities. They will always be there. The evil will always be there. Everything else adapts with time to prevent it from such power.
I don't think that's true at all, "if not Hitler then someone else", as if it was some kind of unavoidable deterministic fate.
Personally I will just be ecstatic over never having to hear his dumb fucking voice again.
The cabal of fascists infesting and rotting democracy like termites will have to be dealt with and if anything, at least our shared hatred of Trump has made us come together and organize and prepare to fumigate the whole fucking place.
Trump has a cult of personality that took years to build, and isn't simply transferred to someone else. MAGA doesn't survive if he's gone. Will there still be fascists, racists, and so on? Yes, but they won't be unified anymore, and they won't be grouped together with the rest of the right anymore either. This will be good for the left in the short term because the right will be less powerful, but also bad for the left because it won't be as easy to attack the right.
No doubt it will hurt them, but they will recoalesce into some new golem down the line, and I don't think it'll take long. They're loud and energetic, all that energy still has to go somewhere- and remember the fundamentalist Christians. They sure as hell ain't leaving anytime soon, and they're already mobilized and old in the game. I think once the Diaper Balloon pops whoever grabs the throne will be pushed as the new idol and FOX et al will brainwash the crowd into supporting them.
That was never inevitable. The breeding ground, or the bacterial culture was spreading in the vat, but certainty was never on the table. We can change things, we can avert disaster, we can elect competent leaders. Case in point: Mamdani.
Yes and no. You're certainly right, most of Trump's popularity comes from Russian propaganda, and far more institutional issues like underfunded education, the blind eye to the Southern states after the Civil War, leftover Red Scare paranoia, and rampant lobbying.
That being said, using the disease metaphor, I think of Trump as more of a "complication" than a "symptom". Something that's drastically exacerbated a problem that was already there. Every other politician, even ones as corrupt and self-serving and dictatorial as him, all have to play the PR game and dress their rancid fantasies up as something that would benefit the public. Trump meanwhile, can transparently go back on every single promise, back stab his every last ally, out himself as perhaps the most prolific paedophile in human history, and order his fans into a street militia, and somehow, his supporters just accept it as part of his "brand".
The US was probably always going in this direction, but I still think it wouldn't have got here half as fast, maybe not even a third of the speed Trump's been disassembling it without him. I don't really know why Trump's popularity was never affected by his vile actions until this year - they would sink any other public figure. Maybe it's the right wing press playing defense for him at every turn, maybe it was his "joke candidate" status he earned back in 2015, maybe it's his history in the public spotlight. Whatever it is, far right politicians around the world have tried to replicate what Trump has, and they've all failed. Because of that, I still think that the Big Beautiful Obituary will be well worth celebrating!
You have to take small victories while understanding the bigger picture. It will still be glorious, although I am saving up cheap 100 proof vodka as the asshat does not deserve good booze or my money in buying said booze. I might add a champagne if it's less than 20 bucks.
Perversely, the "great men" view of history that prompts us to want to kill baby hitler is an authoritarian one.
Authoritarian leaders often adopt the narrative that they are special saviors uniquely equipped to fix the problems of the world. The much less romantic truth is that even if we could trust someone with that kind of power, the problems that plague our world are too big to be solved by a single person, no matter how well-intentioned or capable that person may be.
It's more about hoping the cult breaks down and won't be unified anymore. Maybe vance can't jedi mind trick people the same way or something? Republican party fractures, rfk jr becomes totally irrelevant, etc.
But yes long terms the problems are still there, the hope is for some kind of respite, force the fascist elements to retreat, and democracy fashions some tools to defend itself better moving forward.
But yeah idk i really hope all the epstein stuff can come out, for example -- more witnesses come forward, actual accountability and jail time for the perps involved -- but it would not be a huge surprise if none of that ever happens
In terms of hitler, if he had died in the war or something, maybe France would have gone full fascist genocide. France was really a leader of antisemitism much more so than Germany before hitler rose to power. But of course, those are the kinds of hypotheticals that can only have absurd answers.
Ok, but what if it really is him? I mean if we're assigning moral blame then you're right: many, many people are responsible. But negative outcomes for evil beliefs aren't a given. What if people are always just this stupid, and it took a certain person with certain traits to bring this out of them? Did people change, or were they just latently stupid but mostly harmless this entire time? Things were going pretty well for a while there, so what if we were teetering on the edge that whole time?
His death might also give some of the smarter fascists an off-ramp, which could reduce their critical mass. I'm NOT saying they deserve an off-ramp, but if it means society starts heading in the right direction again, maybe it's worth it. We'd all prefer to excise the tumor completely, but sometimes that seems impossible. Remission would still be a blessing.
I guess what I'm saying is, let's not be too cynical while we're celebrating this person's death.
I kind of agree with you, but his death will still be celebrated. When you get a mosquito it won't significantly change how many bites you get at the end of the day but it still feels fuckin great
I'm sure there are a lot of techbros that think Warhammer 40k is aspirational and they'd love serving a braindead emperor on life support who sends them telepathic commands only they can receive.
They need to do more than pretend he's at school in Canada. In McConnell's case, his state of limbo actually serves both parties. Maybe the Democratic party more so than the Republicans.
I've no doubt they'll try to create an animated Trump, but the tech's not there yet, and he'll feel wrong to his base.
No cult of personality has survived the death of its leader without an extensive transition process in advance, either to usher in a replacement leader, or to turn it into a cult of an idea.
(I'm absolutely sure they'll pretend that Trump is sending messages from beyond the grave. That may work for a while, though it didn't with Charlie Kirk.)
Vance definitely doesn't have anything to pull people to him. Like as much as I hate Trump, I at least see the dumb things he does his cult likes. Vance has none of that. It's like if Jeffries tried to replace Mamdani.
Let's hope not. They're both charisma vacuums. Not that I think Trump is especially charismatic either, but his personality is certainly large and hard to ignore, unlike those two gormless non-entities.
The cult has been around long before Trump, long before he was groomed by Fox News. It was a cult in need of a leader. No reason it'll dissappear after he's gone
The long line is what will help. That whole line of them will be at each other's throats trying to take his place. It will divide their party and divide their supporters. Eventually, one will claim victory and rise to prominence, but until then, they'll be in crippling chaos.
That's not how this kind of shit works. A dictatorship does not simply appoint a successor and carry on. Even if it is firmly entrenched, there will well be a power struggle among potential successors, that often brings down the entire regime. And in the US the fascists aren't firmly entrenched just yet.
I believe this is completely incorrect. This idea of a power struggle concerning successors being of super high importance reduces the problem down to individuals. Regimes don't fail because of small skirmishes, or because of a leader dying.
Oh there's definitely going to be some celebrating going on and I imagine it'll probably be people getting fired and fights at work because it'll be a bunch of sad weirdos upset because their king is gone . Then it's going to be the ones who'll swear that he was "taken out" . It'll be a celebration but also a bunch of weird shit going on .
I wish I could agree, but from the UK to Germany to Australia to South Africa, not insignificant amounts of people have taken a look at the USA and gone "I want some of that too". At least Americans had the 'excuse' of thinking they were gonna get cheaper eggs or some shit. But the people who have had the advantage of watching this unfold from the outside and still want their own wannabe MAGA movements, are just trash with no excuse.
I think a 3rd of the world will celebrate, a 3rd will cry, and the other 3rd won't be able to tell the difference between the other two.
It would be an interesting stat. What percentage of the world's population got drunk celebrating your death? Hitler probably tops the leaderboard still.
Hitler probably still has the highest percent, but the likes of Putin and Trump might overtake him easily when they go since the world is a lot more connected and it's basically impossible not to hear the news now.
You forget, MAGA has nowhere else to turn to than the right wing "'press", and won't go anywhere. That shit ain't stopping with Trump, they'll just latch on to whatever and whoever else they get told to and keep going.
Depends on the country, only on free counties, in other places when some people commented certain death and they were sent to jail, lost visas… so I would be afraid to say anything when this happen, will be only quiet in my corner waiting to get democracy back.
No, but there were radios everywhere in homes, shops, cafes, bars, etc, and wireless telegraphy was near instantaneous. Newspapers with 'extra extra read all about it!' Would have hit the stands within hours. So yes, within 48 hours of Hitler's death people absolutely knew that the fucker was dead.
Just thinking of some one in a city somewhere getting home from work, just getting to bed, and getting upset about fireworks going off and cheering in the streets.
He leans out the window and shouts "WTF IS GOING ON!?"
TRUMP IS DEAD! the crowd shouts.
The man immediately runs downstairs, fuck shoes, and joins the party.
One explanation of the box he's wearing on his ass is that it's a continuous IV pump required for extreme cases of pulmonary/arterial hypertension. It looks like it may end up being heart disease.
Thank you. I kept reading people offering endless diaper jokes as the explanation, but he's been wearing diapers for years and that ass box is new. Your suggestion is the first realistic guess I've seen.
As an aside, this video came out on the official WH press secretary's X account. Looks like Karoline Leavitt is even more pissed off about being left behind on the decoy plane than we thought, lol.
Also, she has a rich old husband, and two babies, and the president kept calling her on the phone screaming at her. Nobody rich as she is needs to put up with that.
It's funny seeing Americans think even our crappy president is somehow the universally acclaimed Mr Evil himself and that there would be a UN independence day if he kicked the bucket. He could die tomorrow and a solid majority of the planet would only be wondering which of the other millions of available morons will take his place.
Unless you mean Netanyahu in which case everyone except the US and Israel will probably celebrate for 5 seconds before they bomb another school full of children.
I was super busy on the day Graham died. If I had found out earlier in the day, I would have opened my champagne bottle. I had to wait a few days to take a moment to celebrate. It was less expected than Trump's death.
One thing that frustrates me is, years ago we would have said this about Vladimir Putin - another man causing tons of harm to the world. But people rich enough to pay top doctors seem to hold on a long time.
There is no one universally hated or universally loved. So not everyone will celebrate anything. And if the bar is only that the celebration was observed simultaneously by someone in every time zone, then that has likely happened multiple times with things like US elections or the Olympics or that big soccer thing some people care about.
You could probably do one for each valid UTC offset pretty easily since I think that's < 50 people (though I'm not sure of any weird shenanigans or offsets with no land or something, but boats are a thing). Actual timezones is a whole can of worms, but close enough is close enough.
I do not understand why people give him so much attention... You will say you are "celebrating his death" but you are still giving him all the attention he wants.
You're disqualifying a day of celebration shared by every human being on the planet because it wasn't perfectly synchronized? And somehow an obituary is supposed to get more people to celebrate? And no other similar obituaries or end of war announcements count? lmao okay
As an American, I assume his death brought some feelings of justice to some people that lost loved ones due to 9/11 but it wasn't a celebration with champagne kind of moment for me. It wasn't a "let's join the queue to piss on his grave" feeling.
I'm against the death penalty, and the details of his capture and death weren't released immediately. Based on what I recall I know now that it would have been unlikely to capture him alive. It was just a feeling that Obama did what Bush didn't prioritize. Obama did something that the Republican failed to do. But it would have been something to put bin Laden on trial and see all that.
Not even close. That was a pretty lame "USA! USA! USA!" moment considering they had hunted him for almost half a century after actively having helped create him.
The rest of the world was like "ok" and went on with their days.
All this post says about OOP and OP is ignorance. There have been several global celebrations like this. I'm guessing both of you are too young and/or too stuck in a bubble of some sort to know that.
Anyway, I just really hope but don't expect it to happen before he and his goons makes it mucb worse than it is now.
I'm trying to think about other celebrations you might be referring to. For example.. Hitlers death wouldn't have been celebrated simultaneously due to being limited to the methods of news communication of the time - back then it was radio, telegraph and film so it wouldn't have been celebrated at the same time. Today, we have smartphones with push notifications.
Your other point is spot on, tho.. For what ever reason, a person full of hate seems to live longer out of spite.
Your comment and the very age and experienced you claim make it painfully obvious that you you do not understand this post or have a clue what is different in the 21st century.
No, because if that dude actually existed, he would’ve been known by a small population only. But that German dude killed 1912 years later was globally famous.
My understanding is that the Romans killed Jesus because they just wanted to avoid Jewish people rioting against Roman occupation. The Jewish priests framed Jesus so this would happen because he was speaking against specifically their religious power (He was not anti-rome).
I subscribe to the belief that some of Jesus' disciples faked his resurrection and started a cult.
It seems likely that he was an actual person. It is not verified, nor is it verifiable. This is the kind of shit Bible apologists like to whip out as if it confirms their beliefs. Almost to a person, people who refer to the Historicity of Jesus Wikipedia page use terms like "verified fact" in the same breath. If you're not intending to be a Bible apologist, you should probably take a different tack.
Nobody (especially the apologist) gives a shit whether some rando Nazarine created a religious movement. They were a dime a dozen. What the people who bring this up actually care about is that said Nazarine is the Son of God and the Christian Messiah. Just because he existed, doesn't mean he is anything of the sort, or that God even exists. There is literally no other useful knowledge to be had in pointing out that Jesus was probably a real person, so if you're hell bent on making sure everybody knows he was so totally super-duper real guys, then everybody figures you must have an agenda.
I'm sorry you're so upset about people correcting misinformation.
PS: There's one useful thing about telling people that Jesus existed: We don't have to suffer smug atheists being like "haha Jesus is fake I'm so smart."
Calling Jesus "verified fact" is the only misinformation in this thread buddy. I'm sorry you and all the morons like you believe in fairy tales. The world sucks because of it.
haha yes, Jesus of Nazareth and Julius Ceasar, totally the same! As one would expect of a... peasant zealot and the leader of the largest empire in the Western world. Their respective footprints in history, shit they might as well be twins!
Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and the idea that Jesus was a mythical figure has been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.
You replied with "Just insulting you on your education level" and then deleted it, probably because someone else told you it was dumb. Then your "upgrade" from that reply is this? You're hopeless.
Much of the 'historical Jesus' movements especially since the 1970's or so, and especially in the USA, often a little strange ime, no one knows and it's fine.
FC Baur > Ernest Renan > Joseph Smith > Bart Ehrman kinda line...evangelical adult Jesus nerds hoping something in the 27 book NT can be clung to but struggling with magical women from Eve to Mary being core. It's been big business in the US over the past 50yrs or so with the SBL evangelizing Markan Priority and seven letters of St Saul and all those bible schools trying really hard to ignore anything not in the little 66 book KJV's for lolz.
Jesus of Nazareth is far from verified afaiu.
He pops up in Marcion's New Testament ~140CE and peeps not sure if the christos is flesh or not there and the discussion around this issue hasn't really gone away despite burning rather a lot of people and books mentioning it since..the wiki article you cite suggests dismissing them as 'fringe' or 'radical' instead of burning or screaming heretic. Prior to ~140CE is anyone's guess and why those defending their Chistology be it Islam, Tewahedo or SBL say "Most of our scholars agree xyz" instead of providing any evidence.
This seems like St Paul: why?
Why would the noble St Mark do what we accuse St Marcion of? We can trust St Mark as he's the bro-science Jesus evangelist
Good scholars often don't comment upon this stuff as there is little worth saying but Michael Penn gives a little insight into the weird world of 'the historical Jesus' in NT scholarship here.
Post doesn't say the first time someones death was cele bvbration, just the first global celebration. Thought the post was about Christmas or a celebration like that. But celebrating the end of a war makes sense too.
I've never thought about it until now, but there are definitely different definitions (or at least uses of the word) for celebrate. You might celebrate your wedding, but you certainly don't have the same type of event for your anniversary. Same for your favorite sports team winning the championship, vs any observance of previous victories.
Yeah i interpreted this more like a celebration of an anniversary than a victory of a match. Looking at it for a second time i also see this could be written about something that hasn't happened yet, while i read it as celebrating something that happened once.
One reason I don't believe internet atheist types are smarter than religious people is because the way a lot of them get when you mention that Jesus being a real person is historian consensus is eerily similar to how Evangelicals get about evolution.
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ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 182 pts · 1d
While that will certainly happen, it won't end the environment that created him or the interests he represents. A brief respite, is as optimistic as I dare to be.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 1d
I'm just looking forward to not hearing him voice his pedo rapist opinions anymore. It's a particular frequency that just won't exist anymore once his pedo mouth is permanently silenced.
Akh@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1d
Well, the GOP has many more of those
BooBees@fedinsfw.app · 7 pts · 1d
They've burned a lot of political capital with a lot of people, though.. gonna take them time to usher in that much political will from the swing voters and a few key voting blocks
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 22h
Actually, you mentioning that specific trait of him reminded me that the FBI and other American autorities have been protecting the pedos and the pedo ring by covering up their activities for decades, much longer than Trump has been President and through both Republican and Democrat administrations.
Which kinda reinforces the point of the previous poster about the environment that created them and the interests he represents - they've been there for much longer than he's had power and clearly they're neither changing nor leaving.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h
Some lucky mortician will get to superglue his lips together.
Stupidmanager@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1d
No. You’ll get 20 new clowns all fighting to be the new king. With luck they’ll eat each other as they step on the backs of everyone else. You want to see change, project 2025 needs to burn.
Also eat the rich.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1d
I don’t even expect a respite- someone will pick up the “populist” mantle immediately. At best, it would be just a changing of the mask
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 1d
A number of people are clearly already trying. They are all failing miserably. Amazingly, none of them have as much charisma, at least not with such a wide audience.
tburkhol@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 1d
None of them had a 14-year propaganda campaign to convince Americans that they're "good at business."
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 13h
Trump also represents a pretty impressive combination of horrible, charismatic, and authentic.
He is truly, truly horrible. He embodies the ugliness that a lot of people see in the world and in themselves, and is willing to cause harm to the world around him in a way that they wish they could.
He is, in his own utterly fucked up way, charismatic. He's eager to aggressively beclown himself for applause and to sell his poison in a way that Stephen Miller or Ron DeSantis couldn't match.
He's authentically awful. Every word he says serves his own corrupt enrichment and aggrandizement, and he makes no secret of that, even when telling lies. When he's lying, he's obviously lying. When he's stupid, he's authentically stupid, not pretending.
Voters are very sensitive to all three of those categories, and they can tell when someone isn't entirely any one of them. Trump is the rare beast to max out all three.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Anyone smarter will damage the country less. Anyone dumber will drool on themselves while trying to speak.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
Anyone smarter will damage the country differently. There is currently an economic force pushing the US toward a future where its citizens are separated and specific groups disenfranchised to pull money toward the ultra-wealthy and major voting blocs. Fewer overtly stupid decisions, plenty of horrors to come.
Tower@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
Exactly. He's an idiot. The ones whispering in his ear, not so much.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1d
It's rare for cults to survive after their leader dies.
I don't see the movement continuing. Some will rally to the new face, but many won't.
Even today support for Trump is slowly waning with his base growing smaller. The issue with the American system is he can lose all support today and continue. Even if dems retake a majority in the Senate it takes 2/3rds vote to remove the president.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
Trump is just a face to an economic force backing horrific practices. He’ll be gone and the well of money will find someone else to hop in.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
If Vance invokes the 25th amendment in January, he'll get the support he needs.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 1d
Also the condemnation of everyone celebrating will make the people bitching over everyone being indifferent to fuckface Kirk look quaint.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 1 pts · 23h
Hopefully someone left-wing can pick up that mantle instead.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
It won't fix all of the problems, but it'll definitely fix one of them.
Kraiden@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
Absolutely. I will ponder this as I sip the bubbly
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
You mean we're not all going to sing the Ewok song of triumph?
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
I’ll settle for chaos and leadership struggle until even the most diehard worshippers vote them out
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 122 pts · 1d
Also, without mentioning a name, we all know who this is about.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 64 pts · 1d
He's so stupid, you even know who I mean when I say "he's so stupid".
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
Works with "Pedo in chief" too
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 1d
I subscribe to a gaming podcast called Nexlander; they have a subscription tier where they’ll read off your name at the end of their main weekly podcast. Every week one of the names is “Maybe today is the day it finally happens” and I have one singular thought every single time that handle is read aloud.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 15 pts · 1d
While we all know who it is, there's a few deaths that would be celebrated globally.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 1d
Honestly there like 3 people that could trigger this.
khannie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
What's your top three?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 1d
In no particular order: Trump, Putin,
NetanyahuMusk.AmyAye@nord.pub · 9 pts · 1d
Musk over Netanyahu, but he is probably too young to go soon.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 1d
Actually, yeah.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 2 pts · 16h
He's also an avid enjoyer of illicit drugs, so maybe...
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 1d
https://lemmy.world/c/iselonmuskdeadyet
amorpheus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
None of the others are remotely close to having such an impact globally.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 6 pts · 1d
I recently saw a post that simply said "Somebody should do it soon" ... and everybody automatically understood what 'it' was and whom it should be done to.
shirro@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1d
Murdoch? Putin? Bibi? The AI/tech bros? The list is crazy long.
On the world stage the orange pedo clown is mostly a joke. I have a bottle chilling in the fridge for Murdoch.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
Murdoch seems to be entirely hands-off now that he’s trained his heirs in the dark arts, so there’s a limit to how exciting it would be.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
I didn’t, I thought it could be any of about 3-4 people by now
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
How could we not? He’s basically the #1 star on this platform.
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Naw, that's The Picard Maneuver.
Trumps a shit stain, not a star.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
This isn't reddit, we can say his name...
ZeroCool@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 1d
They didn't say you couldn't. They just pointed out that you don't need to see the name to know exactly who the post is referring to. Not every thread needs to be about reddit grievances.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 1d
Pretty sure Hitler's death was international news.
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 1d
It didn't spread as fast as this one will though. Every timezone will get the news immediately once it breaks anywhere.
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 16h
They had amateur radio at that point, so that news was certainly disseminated through official channels within minutes.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1d
and so was 9/11, and Katrina.
both showed incredible, international outpourings of support, generosity, and kindness, and opened the door to a potential better future.
and both opportunities were frittered away on stupidity and arrogance.
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 26 pts · 1d
My thoughts exactly. I will totally celebrate Trump's death, but anyone who thinks its going to change anything for the better in any substantial way is sadly oblivious. In fact it frustrates me that so many people seem to think everything will be fine once Trump dies. Already the seeds of inaction and complacency are sewn.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
the problem is that trump has advanced the republican agenda by 300 miles (to use a convenient conversational example), and when he dies, the advance will falter and fall back to maybe 250 miles.
and the fools will celebrate that as a return to normalcy and a victory, ignorant to the 250 miles of advancement they made, secured, and locked down by their complacency.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 22h
Judging by what happenned after the last Trump presidency, I think your expectation that over 80% of what he and his party have done will be actually undone by a Democrat POTUS is incredibly optimistic.
My bet would be at most 10% - so 300 miles his way and only 30 miles back after him.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 6 pts · 1d
You don't get it. Without dear leader they fall apart. They don't have anyone to replace him, at least no one their voters care even half as much about as him. The cult will die with him and that is a HUGE opportunity to capitalize on.
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1d
Nah bro, I wish, but nah. The damage is done. Don't you see? The cult, Trump, all that was the booster rocket. This shit is in stable orbit now. It doesn't matter what happens to that apparatus anymore.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 22h
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
A horrible, horrible symptom killing that diseased country even faster and making it spread even more and nastier efflusions all around than usual, but none the less somebody like him would never have reached that position if America wasn't already profoundly sick.
If the disease isn't cured all that will happen is that another one like him is bound to get the post in at most 8 years after a caretaker POTUS that does nothing to undo the shit he did, same as last time.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
It won’t be fine, but no one else has whatever twisted mind control is necessary to control the worshippers. I’m sure they’ll try to apply things smarter, they’ll get the backing of their billionaire owner, but it’s not intelligence that made all this happen, not ability. It’s all the sycophants and grifters falling inline and that won’t happen for someone else
Napster153@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1d
Everyone wants to feel validated like a hero but with none sacrifice a hero does.
Pure envy drives the masses. It is one of the many poisons in the current iteration of society
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1d
Comparing 9/11 or Katrina to the end of WW2 is a tad inaccurate to say the least.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
It's also simply untrue - it took much more time for information to travel, and no one was 'celebrating' 9/11 aside from... well, you should know the types.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 21h
Mossad?
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 18h
I was thinking more the 'Anything against the west is good' types, but yeah Mossad was probably pretty pleased with how things played out.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 15h
The only people confirmed to have been dancing in the streets in response to 9/11 were confirmed mossad agents. Israel tried to show videos of Muslims and Arabs celebrating the attacks, but all of them were people actually celebrating sports teams or weddings.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 15h
Yeah I don't know about any of that, but it doesn't surprise me - they are quite ghoulish. Steelmanning, even if the Muslim and Arab people were celebrating - that still doesn't count as global celebrations.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1d
Katrina and the Waves, the Eurovision competitors?
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1d
I know whose death we'll celebrate next
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 16h
Yup, we know who your talking about here as well.
Ol' ketamine head.
davidgro@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 1d
From what I've heard, the moon landing was pretty much a global celebration, but yeah, would be a bit different.
Reygle@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 15h
What's the joke again?
Man stops at a newsagent every day to read the headlines but never buys a paper.
When asked, he says "I'm looking for an obituary."
When the newsagent tells him obituaries aren't on the front pages he says
"The one I'm looking for will be."
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 20h
I've been looking forward to his death too but the more I think about it, it's a mistake to think his death will somehow change the direction things are going
America is conveniently putting all the blame on Trump and ignoring that it took a lot of people to put Anerica in the position it's in. If the problem were JUST Trump, he wouldn't have come anywhere close to being elected. A sane country would have reacted to his behaviour by laughing him off and never giving him any votes or airtime. Trump is in power because an alarming number of Americans (not necessarily a majority, but a lot) agree with him
I've always been annoyed by people wanting to go back in time and kill Hitler. If it wasn't Hitler, it just would have been someone else. There's this strange persistent myth that if we get rid of one evil man, it all goes away. Hitler didn't singlehandedly kill 11 million people. 11 million people aren't rounded up and killed because one man decided to do it, it required people to go along with it
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 20h
I mean, of course, then again uniting under a single banner/man does make the faction stronger, under him they simply can't make any mistake, someone else would have a harder time getting away with the same things.
This does not take anything away from how evil they are and how they still exist and will after him
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 20h
Why would someone else have a harder time getting away with stuff? What is special about Trump? I legit don't understand how he gets away with things that supposedly nobody else would. Has he made a deal with the devil for immunity from all possible consequences? I'm legitimately asking, why is he different?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 19h
The powerful people that run the world don't care about the bad things he has done. They have a different moral code than everyone else and its pretty fucked.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 19h
Right, which is why I think another MAGA would get away with exactly the same stuff
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 16h
Yeah he just made a deal with the devil... Nah, in all seriousness it's the way he appeals to the uneducated and hateful masses. You can't replicate his special mix of pure hatred and greed inorganically. It isn't that there can't be another, more so that no one even remotely in a position where they could take over doesn't have the same undeniable sway. They'll stop being so united.
Doesn't mean they'll stop being a threat, it'll just mean it's a bit easier to deal with
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 16h
Yes.
Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
Its obvious the big big money players are driving his agenda.
They are daring the poor people to fight for their existence.
PS: re: Hitler. Go back in time. Take meth and cash. Find hitler. Get him on meth, buy enough art to get him notoriety, teach him punk music, let punk music advance egalitarian freedom and anarchy, so fascism has harder time gaining traction.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 15h
Might be a symptom but you still breathe a sigh of relief when your headache clears up even if your alcoholism is going to cause another one tomorrow.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15h
I would blame the non voters and misinformation and the complacency of it more.
The reps are evil in nature and simply feed on such opportunities. They will always be there. The evil will always be there. Everything else adapts with time to prevent it from such power.
This time we all let ourselves down on this one.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 18h
I don't think that's true at all, "if not Hitler then someone else", as if it was some kind of unavoidable deterministic fate.
Personally I will just be ecstatic over never having to hear his dumb fucking voice again.
The cabal of fascists infesting and rotting democracy like termites will have to be dealt with and if anything, at least our shared hatred of Trump has made us come together and organize and prepare to fumigate the whole fucking place.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 15h
Trump has a cult of personality that took years to build, and isn't simply transferred to someone else. MAGA doesn't survive if he's gone. Will there still be fascists, racists, and so on? Yes, but they won't be unified anymore, and they won't be grouped together with the rest of the right anymore either. This will be good for the left in the short term because the right will be less powerful, but also bad for the left because it won't be as easy to attack the right.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
No doubt it will hurt them, but they will recoalesce into some new golem down the line, and I don't think it'll take long. They're loud and energetic, all that energy still has to go somewhere- and remember the fundamentalist Christians. They sure as hell ain't leaving anytime soon, and they're already mobilized and old in the game. I think once the Diaper Balloon pops whoever grabs the throne will be pushed as the new idol and FOX et al will brainwash the crowd into supporting them.
That's my bet at least.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 18h
It would have been somebody else just as it would be someone else now if not Trump. This is just how the political tide keeps turning
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h
That was never inevitable. The breeding ground, or the bacterial culture was spreading in the vat, but certainty was never on the table. We can change things, we can avert disaster, we can elect competent leaders. Case in point: Mamdani.
CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14h
Yes and no. You're certainly right, most of Trump's popularity comes from Russian propaganda, and far more institutional issues like underfunded education, the blind eye to the Southern states after the Civil War, leftover Red Scare paranoia, and rampant lobbying.
That being said, using the disease metaphor, I think of Trump as more of a "complication" than a "symptom". Something that's drastically exacerbated a problem that was already there. Every other politician, even ones as corrupt and self-serving and dictatorial as him, all have to play the PR game and dress their rancid fantasies up as something that would benefit the public. Trump meanwhile, can transparently go back on every single promise, back stab his every last ally, out himself as perhaps the most prolific paedophile in human history, and order his fans into a street militia, and somehow, his supporters just accept it as part of his "brand".
The US was probably always going in this direction, but I still think it wouldn't have got here half as fast, maybe not even a third of the speed Trump's been disassembling it without him. I don't really know why Trump's popularity was never affected by his vile actions until this year - they would sink any other public figure. Maybe it's the right wing press playing defense for him at every turn, maybe it was his "joke candidate" status he earned back in 2015, maybe it's his history in the public spotlight. Whatever it is, far right politicians around the world have tried to replicate what Trump has, and they've all failed. Because of that, I still think that the Big Beautiful Obituary will be well worth celebrating!
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18h
You have to take small victories while understanding the bigger picture. It will still be glorious, although I am saving up cheap 100 proof vodka as the asshat does not deserve good booze or my money in buying said booze. I might add a champagne if it's less than 20 bucks.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 13h
Perversely, the "great men" view of history that prompts us to want to kill baby hitler is an authoritarian one.
Authoritarian leaders often adopt the narrative that they are special saviors uniquely equipped to fix the problems of the world. The much less romantic truth is that even if we could trust someone with that kind of power, the problems that plague our world are too big to be solved by a single person, no matter how well-intentioned or capable that person may be.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 9h
It's more about hoping the cult breaks down and won't be unified anymore. Maybe vance can't jedi mind trick people the same way or something? Republican party fractures, rfk jr becomes totally irrelevant, etc.
But yes long terms the problems are still there, the hope is for some kind of respite, force the fascist elements to retreat, and democracy fashions some tools to defend itself better moving forward.
But yeah idk i really hope all the epstein stuff can come out, for example -- more witnesses come forward, actual accountability and jail time for the perps involved -- but it would not be a huge surprise if none of that ever happens
In terms of hitler, if he had died in the war or something, maybe France would have gone full fascist genocide. France was really a leader of antisemitism much more so than Germany before hitler rose to power. But of course, those are the kinds of hypotheticals that can only have absurd answers.
moakley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 14h
Ok, but what if it really is him? I mean if we're assigning moral blame then you're right: many, many people are responsible. But negative outcomes for evil beliefs aren't a given. What if people are always just this stupid, and it took a certain person with certain traits to bring this out of them? Did people change, or were they just latently stupid but mostly harmless this entire time? Things were going pretty well for a while there, so what if we were teetering on the edge that whole time?
His death might also give some of the smarter fascists an off-ramp, which could reduce their critical mass. I'm NOT saying they deserve an off-ramp, but if it means society starts heading in the right direction again, maybe it's worth it. We'd all prefer to excise the tumor completely, but sometimes that seems impossible. Remission would still be a blessing.
I guess what I'm saying is, let's not be too cynical while we're celebrating this person's death.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 11h
Yeah, this unfortunately. It’s the far right MAGA extremists who voted him in
We need to hold them accountable, throw them in jail, deport them and blacklist them
adhdsergio@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
I kind of agree with you, but his death will still be celebrated. When you get a mosquito it won't significantly change how many bites you get at the end of the day but it still feels fuckin great
TeaWithDani@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 1d
You guys are a bit optimistic if you think Mitch McConnell's absence isnt a test run for something.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1d
Even if they've heard the name before, not one person I know outside of the U.S. knows who McConnell is. Trump is known and despised worldwide.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 1d
I think they mean testing if they can have a politician be dead and just pretend they aren't
TeaWithDani@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Trump 2028 will be run dead or alive, exactly.
I'm sure they already have the LLM ready to run his socials.
RichardNixos@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1d
I'm sure there are a lot of techbros that think Warhammer 40k is aspirational and they'd love serving a braindead emperor on life support who sends them telepathic commands only they can receive.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
He means the Republicans will just Weekend at Bernies him to maintain power the same way they are with McConnell.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I didn't think he's actually dead, just on life support or unable to function.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d
They need to do more than pretend he's at school in Canada. In McConnell's case, his state of limbo actually serves both parties. Maybe the Democratic party more so than the Republicans.
I've no doubt they'll try to create an animated Trump, but the tech's not there yet, and he'll feel wrong to his base.
No cult of personality has survived the death of its leader without an extensive transition process in advance, either to usher in a replacement leader, or to turn it into a cult of an idea.
(I'm absolutely sure they'll pretend that Trump is sending messages from beyond the grave. That may work for a while, though it didn't with Charlie Kirk.)
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d
And they'll use it to sell one last cryptoscam before bailing out with the money.
Hubi@feddit.org · 1 pts · 12h
I know about a lot of your batshit politicians but everything I have learned about them was against my will.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 12h
Unfortunately most people in the U.S. can say the same thing.
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 37 pts · 1d
I love how everyone knows exactly who this is referring to without including his name.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
He is the profile picture of the community
db2@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1d
... with a very broad definition of "human being"
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1d
We’ll call it Cholesterol Day.
dudeface@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
I think that relies too much on genetics and unfortunately the parents lived to 90+
Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
Call it big mac day. I'm pretty sure his parents didn't exclusively eat loads of clown meat every day.
dudeface@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Don’t think it matters as much as you think, some bloodlines live longer
There is worse things you can eat than Big Macs, also take in to account he doesn’t smoke or drink
Tiger@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
My favorite podcaster used to say we’re hopeful for that “cheeseburger from heaven” that’ll finish him off.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 1d
Kissinger was a pretty good starter.
Emerald@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
Bibi's celebration will be bigger
Almacca@aussie.zone · 18 pts · 1d
Trouble is, there's a long line of equally toxic shitheads ready to succeed him. You think Vance or Johnson will be any better?
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 1d
I don't think either of them will get the automatic allegiance of a cult. One can hope, anyway.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
Vance definitely doesn't have anything to pull people to him. Like as much as I hate Trump, I at least see the dumb things he does his cult likes. Vance has none of that. It's like if Jeffries tried to replace Mamdani.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1d
Let's hope not. They're both charisma vacuums. Not that I think Trump is especially charismatic either, but his personality is certainly large and hard to ignore, unlike those two gormless non-entities.
Hikermick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
The cult has been around long before Trump, long before he was groomed by Fox News. It was a cult in need of a leader. No reason it'll dissappear after he's gone
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 9 pts · 1d
The long line is what will help. That whole line of them will be at each other's throats trying to take his place. It will divide their party and divide their supporters. Eventually, one will claim victory and rise to prominence, but until then, they'll be in crippling chaos.
ccunix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Unless I am mistaken, there is no line. If POTUS does in office, vice-POTUS takes over.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 6 pts · 1d
Takes over the office, but that doesn't mean he takes over the party or the voters.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1d
The rich guys are ready to support Vance.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 23h
But are the trailer park bumpkins ready to support him? What about the ghouls in Congress or the Supreme Court?
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 23h
They'll be bought, as expected in that country
Almacca@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1d
Let them fight!
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
They, nor Rubio or Hegseth, don't have a single ounce of Charisma between them.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Both of them are charisma vacuums, so they will tank even faster.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 23h
That's not how this kind of shit works. A dictatorship does not simply appoint a successor and carry on. Even if it is firmly entrenched, there will well be a power struggle among potential successors, that often brings down the entire regime. And in the US the fascists aren't firmly entrenched just yet.
distal@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 19h
I believe this is completely incorrect. This idea of a power struggle concerning successors being of super high importance reduces the problem down to individuals. Regimes don't fail because of small skirmishes, or because of a leader dying.
BenReilly23@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 1d
Oh there's definitely going to be some celebrating going on and I imagine it'll probably be people getting fired and fights at work because it'll be a bunch of sad weirdos upset because their king is gone . Then it's going to be the ones who'll swear that he was "taken out" . It'll be a celebration but also a bunch of weird shit going on .
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Ah goddammit, yeah, this is the right prediction. Shit.
Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 1d
I wish I could agree, but from the UK to Germany to Australia to South Africa, not insignificant amounts of people have taken a look at the USA and gone "I want some of that too". At least Americans had the 'excuse' of thinking they were gonna get cheaper eggs or some shit. But the people who have had the advantage of watching this unfold from the outside and still want their own wannabe MAGA movements, are just trash with no excuse.
I think a 3rd of the world will celebrate, a 3rd will cry, and the other 3rd won't be able to tell the difference between the other two.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
It was propaganda, and there's still a huge amount of social media propaganda to go around.
Any social media is vulnerable, particularly if it's anonymous.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
"here comes the new boss, same as the old boss."
pachrist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 16h
It would be an interesting stat. What percentage of the world's population got drunk celebrating your death? Hitler probably tops the leaderboard still.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 16h
Hitler probably still has the highest percent, but the likes of Putin and Trump might overtake him easily when they go since the world is a lot more connected and it's basically impossible not to hear the news now.
Nullpwn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15h
Lmao, I've been reading this post and I had your exact thoughts crossing my mind then I saw your comment =)))
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 11h
Don’t forget Elon musk, Xi jing ping, and other rich and powerful individuals who caused mass suffering
glimse@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 21h
Text as an image
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 20h
Images are just numbers.
glimse@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20h
Lots and lots of numbers being rendered at 10x the size of other text on screen and without word wrap
cmhe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20h
And nobody really knows if numbers exist, if there is nobody there to count.
distal@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 20h
You sower of doubt!
nexguy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20h
Numbers are just thoughts
TopsickPilgrim@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 23h
I can't celebrate. I worry about the replacement. Not like they arent anticipating it either.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20h
There's not a person in that administration who has the same pull over MAGA as Trump. Everyone else is just a wet shit.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 20h
I mean look at Vance. He's not popular in his own house, let alone the public at large.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18h
When they hear the key unlocking the front door, all the furniture get an anxiety attack.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 18h
You forget, MAGA has nowhere else to turn to than the right wing "'press", and won't go anywhere. That shit ain't stopping with Trump, they'll just latch on to whatever and whoever else they get told to and keep going.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 15h
Gladly history tells us that more often than not tyrannical leaders deaths trigger a power war over their successor destroying their platform.
arc99@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 13h
Elon or Donald? Or both?
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 12h
We'll have to see who wins!
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Depends on the country, only on free counties, in other places when some people commented certain death and they were sent to jail, lost visas… so I would be afraid to say anything when this happen, will be only quiet in my corner waiting to get democracy back.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 1d
Respectfully, I don't think waiting quietly is how you get your democracy back.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 1d
It wouldn't be the first time.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
Ahh yes, 1945, when a huge portion of the adult population carried battery powered vacuum tube radios around in their pockets.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 5 pts · 21h
No, but there were radios everywhere in homes, shops, cafes, bars, etc, and wireless telegraphy was near instantaneous. Newspapers with 'extra extra read all about it!' Would have hit the stands within hours. So yes, within 48 hours of Hitler's death people absolutely knew that the fucker was dead.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17h
Simultaneous - adjective - occurring, operating, or done at the same time
saimen@feddit.org · 9 pts · 1d
Al lot of people might be sleeping though
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 20h
Babe wake up. Fat orange cunt just dropped.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
The lasagna one or the diaper one?
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
Not for long, when they hear cheering in the streets.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 20h
Just thinking of some one in a city somewhere getting home from work, just getting to bed, and getting upset about fireworks going off and cheering in the streets.
He leans out the window and shouts "WTF IS GOING ON!?"
TRUMP IS DEAD! the crowd shouts.
The man immediately runs downstairs, fuck shoes, and joins the party.
saimen@feddit.org · 4 pts · 21h
That would be so awesome
bagsy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
already got my wine picked out.
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10h
My heart skipped a beat. I thought I missed a headline.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 7 pts · 1d
I'll volunteer to die if it triggers a global celebration.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
Sorry but we already planned this for you:
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 4 pts · 1d
Six people giving me a shower?
Over my dead body.
BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1d
Its minions with fart guns.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1d
Yeah I could tolerate that.
medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Ok, diseases, this is your chance: whichever one of you gets him, we will cease funding for curing you.
Heart disease. Stroke. Cancer. Chronic flatulence.
Let the games begin.
Edit: limited time offer. If you get him after the offer expires, the funding continues to find a cure for you.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1d
One explanation of the box he's wearing on his ass is that it's a continuous IV pump required for extreme cases of pulmonary/arterial hypertension. It looks like it may end up being heart disease.
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Thank you. I kept reading people offering endless diaper jokes as the explanation, but he's been wearing diapers for years and that ass box is new. Your suggestion is the first realistic guess I've seen.
As an aside, this video came out on the official WH press secretary's X account. Looks like Karoline Leavitt is even more pissed off about being left behind on the decoy plane than we thought, lol.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1d
Also, she has a rich old husband, and two babies, and the president kept calling her on the phone screaming at her. Nobody rich as she is needs to put up with that.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1d
I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge just waiting for the occasion!
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
2006 Piper Heidseck vintner's reserve for me
Standing by
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Don't know what that is but it sounds proper AF.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 21h
I stopped drinking for 14 weeks, but I will make an exception for Trump.
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 19h
If you've struggled with alcoholism please don't relapse for any reason.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 12h
I was not an alcoholic, I just had a weekend habit that wasn't fun anymore. It was an autistic ritual more than anything.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 12h
I've considered ordering a cake and requesting them to write, "Trump's dead lol" on it.
thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 1d
OH I thought they were taking about Jesus...
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 16h
Yes. Imagine all the people… living for the day…
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
Apparently it’s global
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 13h
woo-oooo-ooooh
mlg@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 11h
It's funny seeing Americans think even our crappy president is somehow the universally acclaimed Mr Evil himself and that there would be a UN independence day if he kicked the bucket. He could die tomorrow and a solid majority of the planet would only be wondering which of the other millions of available morons will take his place.
Unless you mean Netanyahu in which case everyone except the US and Israel will probably celebrate for 5 seconds before they bomb another school full of children.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 9h
Don't be such a spoilsport, I'll definitely call my friends for a spontaneous party here in Germany.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 10h
I mean yeah he deserves to go to hell yesterday as much as anyone, but you're right, we wake up to president vance that's not going to help anything
Areldyb@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10h
When That Man Is Dead and Gone
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
It'll be the closest we're ever likely to come to world peace.
BaraCoded@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 12h
Celebration? Try "orgasm".
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Well, the World Cup exists
Soccer is extremely popular the world over so I image that did it first
huppakee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
You're right though, everybody was so happy Argentine lost.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Little Lindsey fluttered down the manhole to hell and there was no celebration...
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
Lindsey was an amateur compared to this other guy I know of!
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
I was super busy on the day Graham died. If I had found out earlier in the day, I would have opened my champagne bottle. I had to wait a few days to take a moment to celebrate. It was less expected than Trump's death.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Whoever could this be about?
Katana314@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
One thing that frustrates me is, years ago we would have said this about Vladimir Putin - another man causing tons of harm to the world. But people rich enough to pay top doctors seem to hold on a long time.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Docters isn't enough, nor is money. You need power so people will protect you against falling from windows etc.
Marthirial@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
It is getting harder to keep the singularity. They are trying real hard to deserve the honor.
Cellari@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13h
That's a dark possibility, for which I can't blame people.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 9h
There is no one universally hated or universally loved. So not everyone will celebrate anything. And if the bar is only that the celebration was observed simultaneously by someone in every time zone, then that has likely happened multiple times with things like US elections or the Olympics or that big soccer thing some people care about.
mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1d
Nope, New Years is a rolling celebration at midnight local time.
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d
Time zones: am I a joke to you?
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
Why can't they happen at the same time?
Netanyahu had two planes crash into the World Trade Center. Can't he play doubles with Donald on death day?
farmgineer@nord.pub · 1 pts · 21h
You could probably do one for each valid UTC offset pretty easily since I think that's < 50 people (though I'm not sure of any weird shenanigans or offsets with no land or something, but boats are a thing). Actual timezones is a whole can of worms, but close enough is close enough.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11h
you know what i'm thinking. first thing in the morning so i can skip news all day
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 20h
It'll be like millennial new years eve all over again. Now there is finally a reason for fireworks.
Cherry@piefed.social · 1 pts · 21h
Not sure about this. The Russians will be ordered to mount their leaders BF
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 4 pts · 21h
I know it is a typo, but all Russians forced to mount Trump sounds... Appropriate!
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 15h
Yeah, last time we did that when Jesus died.
wait. i might have got that wrong.
distal@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 20h
One person passes, the next one fills their role.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18h
Yeah and the likelihood of that person being less of a fuckwit is very high given the absoluteness of the fuckwittery of the current one.
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 19h
If ever there were a time for a "presidential" emergency alert being sent to every phone and waking everyone up...
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 20h
I do not understand why people give him so much attention... You will say you are "celebrating his death" but you are still giving him all the attention he wants.
toadster@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 15h
Yeah, well, how do you not celebrate the inrush of relief it would bring?
Agrivar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14h
He'll be dead at that point - getting none of the attention. Duh.
nullspace@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
New Year celebrations for 2000 didn't happen, I guess.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 1d
Simultaneous New Year's celebrations 2000 didn't happen. There are these things called time zones...
Event_Horizon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
Speak for yourself. Here in Aussie land I had enough Peruvian marching powder to do all the celebrations!
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18h
A fistful of assorted pills and LSD on a beach in Goa reporting in
nullspace@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 14h
You're disqualifying a day of celebration shared by every human being on the planet because it wasn't perfectly synchronized? And somehow an obituary is supposed to get more people to celebrate? And no other similar obituaries or end of war announcements count? lmao okay
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 12h
simultaneous - adjective - occurring, operating, or done at the same time
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1d
people didn't celebrate for hours beforehand
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 1d
like with osama bin laden , eventhough he is a creation by usa/eu both indirectly and directly.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 10 pts · 1d
No? Nobody outside the US cared like at all.
lemmygarden@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
As an American, I assume his death brought some feelings of justice to some people that lost loved ones due to 9/11 but it wasn't a celebration with champagne kind of moment for me. It wasn't a "let's join the queue to piss on his grave" feeling.
I'm against the death penalty, and the details of his capture and death weren't released immediately. Based on what I recall I know now that it would have been unlikely to capture him alive. It was just a feeling that Obama did what Bush didn't prioritize. Obama did something that the Republican failed to do. But it would have been something to put bin Laden on trial and see all that.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
Not even close. That was a pretty lame "USA! USA! USA!" moment considering they had hunted him for almost half a century after actively having helped create him.
The rest of the world was like "ok" and went on with their days.
Sour_Kabos@reddthat.com · -2 pts · 6h
Yes Xi Jingping would spark this
M137@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 1d
All this post says about OOP and OP is ignorance. There have been several global celebrations like this. I'm guessing both of you are too young and/or too stuck in a bubble of some sort to know that.
Anyway, I just really hope but don't expect it to happen before he and his goons makes it mucb worse than it is now.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1d
Name them
fake@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
Should be easy! There's several of them!
SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1d
I'm trying to think about other celebrations you might be referring to. For example.. Hitlers death wouldn't have been celebrated simultaneously due to being limited to the methods of news communication of the time - back then it was radio, telegraph and film so it wouldn't have been celebrated at the same time. Today, we have smartphones with push notifications. Your other point is spot on, tho.. For what ever reason, a person full of hate seems to live longer out of spite.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Your comment and the very age and experienced you claim make it painfully obvious that you you do not understand this post or have a clue what is different in the 21st century.
huppakee@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 1d
You mean that dude they hang on a cross two millenia ago?
NullPointerException@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1d
No, because if that dude actually existed, he would’ve been known by a small population only. But that German dude killed 1912 years later was globally famous.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Jesus is a verified factual historical figure who was executed more or less according to Biblical tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
My understanding is that the Romans killed Jesus because they just wanted to avoid Jewish people rioting against Roman occupation. The Jewish priests framed Jesus so this would happen because he was speaking against specifically their religious power (He was not anti-rome).
I subscribe to the belief that some of Jesus' disciples faked his resurrection and started a cult.
AgentSeven@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
It seems likely that he was an actual person. It is not verified, nor is it verifiable. This is the kind of shit Bible apologists like to whip out as if it confirms their beliefs. Almost to a person, people who refer to the Historicity of Jesus Wikipedia page use terms like "verified fact" in the same breath. If you're not intending to be a Bible apologist, you should probably take a different tack.
Nobody (especially the apologist) gives a shit whether some rando Nazarine created a religious movement. They were a dime a dozen. What the people who bring this up actually care about is that said Nazarine is the Son of God and the Christian Messiah. Just because he existed, doesn't mean he is anything of the sort, or that God even exists. There is literally no other useful knowledge to be had in pointing out that Jesus was probably a real person, so if you're hell bent on making sure everybody knows he was so totally super-duper real guys, then everybody figures you must have an agenda.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1d
I'm sorry you're so upset about people correcting misinformation.
PS: There's one useful thing about telling people that Jesus existed: We don't have to suffer smug atheists being like "haha Jesus is fake I'm so smart."
AgentSeven@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Calling Jesus "verified fact" is the only misinformation in this thread buddy. I'm sorry you and all the morons like you believe in fairy tales. The world sucks because of it.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 pts · 1d
Well he's attested in literary evidence with uncontested reliability, which makes him about as unverified as Julius Caesar.
AgentSeven@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
haha yes, Jesus of Nazareth and Julius Ceasar, totally the same! As one would expect of a... peasant zealot and the leader of the largest empire in the Western world. Their respective footprints in history, shit they might as well be twins!
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Faked resurrection?! Now I've heard everything!
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
lol
db2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
[Citation needed]
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 1d
Brain Pulse needed.
Like seriously so easy to find that for yourself unless you're an AI slop consumer.
....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
db2@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
Brain pulse? 😆 Breaking out the first grade insults that were thrown at you as a child is really incredibly pathetic.
Try opening a book other than just the one. Come back when you have an insult worth reading.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 1d
I have to insult you in a way you can understand or it's pointless.
You should be thanking me since you weirdly enjoy this.
db2@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
You replied with "Just insulting you on your education level" and then deleted it, probably because someone else told you it was dumb. Then your "upgrade" from that reply is this? You're hopeless.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · -1 pts · 1d
And what the fuck do you think they put that Wikipedia link for?
db2@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Harry Potter has a Wikipedia entry too.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1d
Now find me one for the historicity of Harry Potter. "Evolution is just a theory"-ass moment.
SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 11h
Much of the 'historical Jesus' movements especially since the 1970's or so, and especially in the USA, often a little strange ime, no one knows and it's fine.
FC Baur > Ernest Renan > Joseph Smith > Bart Ehrman kinda line...evangelical adult Jesus nerds hoping something in the 27 book NT can be clung to but struggling with magical women from Eve to Mary being core. It's been big business in the US over the past 50yrs or so with the SBL evangelizing Markan Priority and seven letters of St Saul and all those bible schools trying really hard to ignore anything not in the little 66 book KJV's for lolz.
Jesus of Nazareth is far from verified afaiu.
He pops up in Marcion's New Testament ~140CE and peeps not sure if the christos is flesh or not there and the discussion around this issue hasn't really gone away despite burning rather a lot of people and books mentioning it since..the wiki article you cite suggests dismissing them as 'fringe' or 'radical' instead of burning or screaming heretic. Prior to ~140CE is anyone's guess and why those defending their Chistology be it Islam, Tewahedo or SBL say "Most of our scholars agree xyz" instead of providing any evidence.
This seems like St Paul: why?
Why would the noble St Mark do what we accuse St Marcion of? We can trust St Mark as he's the bro-science Jesus evangelist
Good scholars often don't comment upon this stuff as there is little worth saying but Michael Penn gives a little insight into the weird world of 'the historical Jesus' in NT scholarship here.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Post doesn't say the first time someones death was cele bvbration, just the first global celebration. Thought the post was about Christmas or a celebration like that. But celebrating the end of a war makes sense too.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1d
I've never thought about it until now, but there are definitely different definitions (or at least uses of the word) for celebrate. You might celebrate your wedding, but you certainly don't have the same type of event for your anniversary. Same for your favorite sports team winning the championship, vs any observance of previous victories.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Yeah i interpreted this more like a celebration of an anniversary than a victory of a match. Looking at it for a second time i also see this could be written about something that hasn't happened yet, while i read it as celebrating something that happened once.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1d
Just in case, the consensus among historians is that Jesus did exist.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
Yeah I went to school with a few of them.
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1d
One reason I don't believe internet atheist types are smarter than religious people is because the way a lot of them get when you mention that Jesus being a real person is historian consensus is eerily similar to how Evangelicals get about evolution.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 1d
Orthodox Christians: am I a joke to you?
(Some sects celebrate as late as January 19th)
g5pw@feddit.it · 7 pts · 1d
Did they nail him to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
He was nailed to that tree to make way for a spice caravan bypass!
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Apparently, He was nailed to a tree to please the Jews.
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1d
DankDingleberry@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 1d
people outside the us dont care all that much.
DigDoug@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1d
Him fucking around in Iran has caused the price of practically everything to skyrocket. Of course we care.
hOrni@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d
I assure You, we do. And the rest of the world clearly hates him, unlike the US, where half of You voted for him.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d
Our system is so broken that you can become president with 21% - 22% of the vote.
That's without the rigged voting machines.
https://youtu.be/7wC42HgLA4k
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1d
Half of voters, which means about 30% of the population. His approval ratings are in the low 30%, the lowest of any president.
Misrepresenting the situation might make you feel better but it doesn't help anyone else.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
'Murican society gets what' Murican society deserves
Unfortunately, individuals get dragged along for the ride
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
By that logic, all Germans during the Third Reich were bad too. The death of nuance is why these things happen. People with your attitude don't help.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
It sure doesn't stop then from complaining
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 4 pts · 1d
I can assure you I care.
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1d
Many Canadians would disagree with that for starters