Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon's ongoing 8 hour outage.

Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like and stupid.

They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

What a human dildo.

We went from mass surveillance to hardware confiscation real quick.

These companies are so large that they don’t need the consumer market anymore. The consumer is now the competition. They can essentially purchase the entire planet’s output of computing hardware years in advance to force us out of the market and lease it back to us at inflated rates. Then, they turn all that tensor compute against us to make everyone’s life a living digital surveillance hell.

Forget Internet freedom, computational liberty is now at risk. Who needs all that expensive legal and technological architecture to steal your data, report on you to the government, and enforce DRM when they control bare metal access to your rented corporate cloud hardware because consumer PC equipment is too astronomically expensive to afford for the average person?

We need to elevate the prosecution of anti-trust to the level of religious inquisition, and burn these companies at the stake. They’re using AI to literally enslave humanity, and it’s working.

Ok so the tactic is to drain the corporations of their money.

• piracy
• dis-enshittification
• jailbreaking devices
• opensource hardware
• decentralization

Unsurprising that capitalists want to seize all the means of computation for themselves.

Hey Jeff — you know what I think is antiquated and should be relegated to the annals of history?

Billionaires.

Go away and live your life of luxury and shut the fuck up. Don't you have enough fucking money?

yeah you know what i always thought hey this PC cost me a lot, i wish I could keep paying for it indefinitely.

I'll own nothing and you'll be happy?

i will never in my life get any subscription to anything, that doesnt have to be a subscription.

so far i'm fine with:

internet connection and my phone number

A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated

People should be more aware that appeal to making you feel old or antiquated is one of the main strategies from corporations to push their products into you.

No, you're not antiquated. Just be yourself and do things the way you like to do, not the way corporations want to force you into. No one should judge you, and if they do, they're wrong for judging others for their way to do things. Don't fall for that trap

I'll give up computers entirely before I rent one from you greedy pricks.

"Hopes", more like will be doing a bunch of anti-competitive bullshit to ensure that this is your only option.

I mean, that's absolutely where this is going at a business level. Cloud computing has been in the cards for decades, and the only real question is who will do the hosting.

With the price of RAM and CPUs going asymptotic, these big cloud compute companies are building an effective monopoly on high end processing capacity. They're cornering the market on hardware. Eventually, you either use their computers or you stick with legacy hardware (that's seeded with Planned Obsolescence time bombs) or you (shudders just to think of it) start buying computers from CHINA.

When you think about it, there's really only one option.

Yeah bud, maybe if you get just a little more money, you'll finally be complete. Just a little more money....

Every 5 years someone invests a bunch of money into thin clients, and then we’re right back where we started.

I’ll believe it’s possible when America’s networking infrastructure isn’t covered in holes.

Step 1: Raise sales prices artificially

Step 2: Create affordable alternatives to rent.

Step 3: Wait until enough people claim that its cheaper and more comfortable to just rent.

Step 4: Wait until maket is destroyed.

Step 6: Raise prices.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

• Blackstone

Fuck you Jeff.

Of course they want that. So they can control and see everything that people can do on their devices. With Moore's law there is absolutely no reason why centralizing computers should make sense. This is pure corporate greed and nothing else.

You will own nothing and be happy.

Over my dead body.

That's Nvidia's whole game plan. Subscription to use their hardware. Limits on hours of gaming. Pay to play more hours.

Everything a subscription. You'll own nothing and like it!

And, people, I can't stress this enough, FUCK JEFF BEZOS!

Nothing is ever enough for these greedy fucks

Imagine the unparalleled censorship when the far-right tech elites decide what you can do on "your" computer.

The only thing people should be giving up is their Amazon Prime subscriptions and AWS hosting. You're very likely getting ripped off and overcharged if you use AWS. Also although I recommend ordering from other websites if you have no choice but to use Amazon you don't need Prime for free shipping, just wait until you have enough stuff in your cart such that you're over the free shipping threshold. Don't order unnecessary stuff to get over the threshold.

Fuck that shit. Switch to Linux.

Good luck with that.

Signed,

A person who has recently started pulling all their files from cloud storage like Google Drive and Dropbox

So wait is the idea that computers would just be like a monitor that connects directly to Amazon

Techno-feudalism, ladies and gentlemen.

If you want to be financially free, have no debt. Pay off any loans, dont have subscriptions. Make your monthly costs to be as low as possible.

That is freedom but its the opposite of what is advertised.

This has been tried, and it sucked and failed every time.

How about fuck you Jeff.

I'm not giving up my PC, I'm running it until it dies, Big Tech can fuck off.

The means of information are the new means of production

Literally never.

These greedy fucks are coming after everything you have, that's how this works.

fucking microsoft too. they're enshittifying things so much because they can charge you rent to compute instead

FIFY: Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud - hopes that you'll give up you won't be able to afford a PC and will be forced to rent one from the cloud

Bezos would sell oxygen subscriptions if he could.

Um no

As @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com stated. This would never work in the US without major overhaul to existing infastructure. I'm rocking a 32/32 Mbps atm. My parents? they get 5. I have to enable steam to limit itself to 512kb/s download or I will take down their network as a whole and if anyone is using youtube or netflix it has to be a 240p or it starts to granulate. Remind me how a cloud based PC is going to work in this state.

"You will own nothing and LIKE IT!"

Yeah go screw yourself Tech weirdo's. You could help us, instead you just bleed us dry for profits.

I would rather never touch a computer again than rent one.

Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

We're so doomed. A lot of people will probably buy into this because they can't possibly be inconvenienced by owning a computer.

I was talking about AI with someone the other day and they said, "Wow, in the future we probably won't be able to work without a subscription to ChatGPT. Oh, well." Like. wat. teh. faq. People see the convenience trap, but can't be bothered to do anything about it. I hate this timeline.

Murica is a deranged shithole. Linux is our only way out of this. To all hardware manifacturers: Build your goddamn drivers for it and free us!

~cry in the capitalist vacuum...

So, these idiots didn't learn their lesson the first time with the colossal flop that was Stadia and now they want to convince us that, this time for sure, we really don't want to own our own hardware and cloud computing is the future?

These guys should not be getting a single bent penny for convincing people to switch over to cloud computing when their AI slop machines are responsible for the scarcity that is causing hardware prices to be completely uneconomical.

They also want our cars, they want our homes, they want our lives.

So that's what they meant by techno feudalism.

This is actually terrifying. Switching to Linux will help us for a while, and the community can take us a long way, but eventually the hardware in physical PCs won't be able to perform basic functions. Maybe it's because cloud PCs use vastly more power and web designers inefficiently update to a web 4.0 that won't be accessible on older hardware -- this has happened before. Or it'll be because the cloud PCs have access to Wi-Fi cards or a new technology entirely to connect that physical hardware won't have access to -- already a standard practice with cell phones' arbitrary gsm phaseouts.

A phaseout of physical hardware would also entail a phaseout of physical accessories, so you can't data-horde your way out of this one unless, maybe, you invested in the now-rare M-Disc format and the drives that make them work. You can buy external offline storage for a while, but eventually it'll all get bought up on the used market or otherwise fail in 5-10 years after the last hard drives get made for consumers. Eventually you will lose all your files and have no way to back them up. No Jellyfin server for movies you legally ripped, no GOG installers for games you legally bought, no music library or ebooks either, they'll all be gone, stolen, so you buy it all over again in perpetuity.

Our only hope, really, is small businesses continuing to build physical PCs with equal power as the cloud devices. But would parts manufacturers let them? The current situation with data centers, SDDs, and RAM shows that parts manufacturers are increasingly only interested in selling to other large businesses. Consumers can't boycott that.

I fully expect to be unable to access my bank or make appointments or get meaningful employment if I don't switch over in 10 to 20 years.

Imagine a world where you have been blacklisted from their services because you posted online about the corruption he feeds.

now imagine how difficult it will be to get or keep a job where you can't use a computer when 85% of all jobs now require AI "skills".

don't worry, you can work in one of the many warehouses at Amazon...

No thanks, I'm good.

In a sense he’s late. A lot of people already have - phones and tablets and chromebooks.

Millions of people simply do not own a traditional computer.

The rest of us, well, cold dead hands and all that.

Sure, we've all seen how the de-centralized internet became centralized around a few big-tech and what that does for availability. When he turns off the cloud-pc I've got nothing, and all I can do about it is ...... also nothing. So if my data isn't on my hardware at a location I can access 24/7 it really isn't my data!!

Something something cold, dead hands

Fucking parasite.

I'm not sure how, but billionaires need to have their billions forcibly taken and redirected toward the public good. If humanity wants any future other than techno-feudalist fascism we need to figure out how to destroy the global billionaire class permanently within the next few decades or we are gonna be fucked for centuries. You'll rent everything and own nothing, they will bleed everyone dry, and if you rise up to disrupt the system you'll get a robot boot on your neck.

I demand you give me control of your entire life, you can trust me.

I f-ing called it:

https://lemmy.world/comment/21195810

This shit....

Luna has what a million users world wide? Its a drop in the bucket. Stadia failed. Game pass streaming sucks ass. Its never going to take off. How much more money do these cunts need??

As they say in my county: "go and die far from here, so I can't smell you".

Money has never bought brains

Yup, Jordan was right, they want you to rent everything.

Meanwhile, I'm preparing myself to long periods of internet outage and intermittent access.

There is no cloud, just someone else computer.

lol, no.

At the same time I'm seeing a bunch of ads for "hardware is getting too expensive, use Akamai cloud for your gaming etc instead, now with AI blah blah!"

Bitch, you're the reason hardware is so expensive!

Never ever ever. I learned to code on a 14 year old hp probook. I know how long I can hold out.

I would rather lower the specs of my network than rent anything from them. If in 2035 I can only afford a raspberry pi 7, so be it.

Yeah, we get it, Bezos. You want us to shove more and more money down your throat.

Reading the article, the analogy with an own generator and the power grid kind of makes sense at first... until you also make an analogy with broadcast and cable TV for example - you don't get to choose what's on, and in the latter case you're practically paying for ads and some programming in between. So... how about no.

My fear is that those shortages (artificial or not) might at one point really drive us in a different direction. My only option for now is to vote with my wallet and use my stuff for as long as practically feasible.

"Own nothing and be happy"

so everyone owning their own pc is "antiquated" but everyone owning their own car is super cool and awesome. got it.

Internet and access to servers is the first thing that govts turn off when they get uppity.

Seems like a fatal risk to have online only services.

My answer to that: 🖕

It's not at all surprising that fatcats looks at the juicy profits that Apple makes with their iOS closed garden and think "I want me some of that" - wanting to be a monopolist with captive customers makes the most business sense and is the most natural thing in a Capitalist Economic and Political environment.

Most of the economic activity around Technology nowadays is rent-seeking and only the part which isn't at all about money - open source - isn't about corraling people into closed spaces, removing their choices and then extracting the most money possible from people who now have no other option.

It's kinda like 20 or 30 years ago when Banks looked at cash payments and thought that they should find a way to get comissions on those, same as they got with card payments, so already back they they were pushing things like electronic wallets (back then those were basically a special kind of card) and keep pushing it for decades (often with the support of governments, since 100% electronic payments are great for civil society surveillance), and nowadays in some countries there are pretty much no cash payments so that relentless push for controlling and getting a cut of every single trade has worked in those countries (and people in those places, such as Sweden, having traded a small hidden increase in price - due to banks now getting comissions in everything - and huge loss of privacy for a tiny bit of convenience genuinelly think they're better of).

So yeah, these software fatcats will totally try and get together with hardware makers with a dominant market position to slowly close down PC technology - for example the whole point of TPM is to take control away from the owners of the hardware and the "trusted" in "trusted platform" (aka TPM) isn't about it being trusted by the owner of the hardware, it's about it being trusted by the business selling the OS, who in turn can sell access to the thus gatekept environment to software making businesses.

I believe the whole requirement for TPM 2.0 in Windows 11 even though it doesn't actually need it is just a step in a broader strategy to turn PCs into a closed platform controlled by Microsoft, whilst as we see here other companies are trying to created closed platforms by having everything run in their servers, like Google tried almost a decade ago for games with Stadia and was also tried 2 or 3 decades ago by the likes of Sun Microsystems with the push for Thin Clients.

I worked with someone that defend this isea to the letter, just not contemplating companies.

The argument stemmed from an alledge visit he had done to Japan, where he had seen terminals connected to mainframes, and people used those from their house.

I was only able to raise one argument: that is not my computer.

Mind that this man was extremely tech savvy, an experienced and proficient programmer and played the roles of IT solutions an security implementer and supervisor at the company we worked at. And we handled sensitive information.

To him, relegating everything to an outside server was a dream, as removed the hassle and responsability of having to maintain, repair, replace and upgrade hardware. Everything needed should be a monitor, a keyboard and a mouse or trackball.

Alternative Advice: Buy up old used mini-pcs if hardware is too expensive. Don't buy AWS unless you actually need cloud services (i.e. you're hosting a website).

I won't say VPSs don't have their utility, but anyone framing it as an alternative to owning a PC is completely DeLuLu and need their head examined.

Make no mistake, the oligarchs see the personal computer as a 40-year-old experiment that has failed, or needs to fail. They want their mainframes and CPU/hr billing back. Server hosting for enterprise uses has already gone this way for the most part. Small consumers are next.

Nah, Bezos. Linux is getting better by the day.

Something something my cold dead hands

How he thinks he can make more billions by forcing yet another subscription model that takes ownership away from individuals.

Well chucklefuck you need a basic PC to act as the client. You know what kind of computer most people have? A shitty PC good enough to be the fuckin client. Why would they want to pay for a shitty pc to rent another one when they can just use the fucking shitty PC they bought at walmart for 300 for 8 fuckin years like they do now? That is $3 a month amortized beat that bitch.

They gotta do something with all those data centres once the AI bubble pops. Pop pop!

Imagine the tracking and monitoring of activity they could do. Might as well go voyeur at that point.

Cloud is just a fancy word for giving up your freedoms. You rely on some greedy corporation and for what? What would the benefit even be?

Salesman shills product, nothing new. Besides, there is too much commodity hardware floating around for this to be plausible.

TBH I don't think he's wrong, especially in HIS position.

Namely I think having the flexibility of the cloud is amazing... but NOT at the cost of losing sovereignty.

So when Bezos uses AWS he is actually smart because he remains sovereign. When anybody else though does rely on another system that they do not own for critical tasks then then lose sovereignty and thus agency.

TL;DR: cloud or not, maintain your agency.

Shit like this is why I'm glad I'm almost dead.

Seize the means of computation!

So stupid, given how quickly computers have become more powerful and cheaper over time. Local PC hardware will never be antiquated, and is only becoming more important over time.

I guess there's more than one reason all pc parts are rising at a ridiculous rate

Sometimes renting from the cloud is a perfectly acceptable solution. However companies leap to using AWS and similar cloud solutions WAY more than necessary or advisable. It is easy to rack up thousands in bills outstripping the costs of buying some hardware and slapping the software onto it. The cloud can scale and do a bunch of cool things but much of the time companies don't need it, or the complexity it brings. There is also the small matter of data sovereignty - if I were a company using the cloud I would be extremely wary of one which is operating outside of my legal jurisdiction and for governments it just a flat out bad idea.

Wonder if all the AI shit has actually been a way to inflate the price of computer hardware to the point where something like this is the only way some people will be able to afford to use computers at all.

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Genuenly I refuse to use cloud PCs, I don't give a fuck how "cheap" they are or how "convenient" they are I ain't using it. If there is still hardware being produced that works with Linux I'm buying it, if no hardware exists I'm gonna keep using my old hardware until new hardware that does support Linux comes out.

The only thing that's gonna be replaced is capitalism and by extension the capitalist class.

Oh, are we doing thin clients, again?

I think once a generation thin clients come up as a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

This is stupid. I will never rent a computer mainframe.

This is part of the AI push, but it assumes that it succeeds. With luck it can be stopped.

Fuck you, Bezos. And fuck Amazon. I'd go full Luddite before giving you a single cent.

There's no quite part anymore. It's all out in the open. Be it politics, capitalism, police brutality,... you name it.

I love how the author keeps bringing up how expensive it would be to implement a system of cloud computing rental because no one would pay the amount it would require to make such a thing profitable. But we're talking about Jeff bezos here who took billions of dollars worth of loss for over 10 years before making Amazon the profit machine that it is now. Simply by making things cheaper for a long period of time until the customer base eas so used to the model that they could picture doing it any other way and their competition went out of business. I can totally foresee them doing this exact thing with cloud computing. Make it really cheap get people hooked where they have gotten rid of all of their in person computers and then, once access to home computing is either prohibitively expensive or impossible to do because parts are no longer available or otherwise impossible for people to switch away, jack up the price and make it profitable by squeezing every dime out of the average consumer.

This was also, by the way, Netflix's strategy as well as Spotify and all the other cloud-based services that people are "addicted to". Take billions and loss to get people used to your service and not consider any alternative. Then once you have a captive audience shoot that price to the Moon.

"We have all this hardware and no consumers because businesses just buy up the competition who were using us, and fire the workers. We need to sell it, but to who? All corporate entities who aren't dying already picked a cloud provider landlord. We own the enterprise market. Who else can we rent seek from?"

Your democrats and republicans are going to cross the aisle to help these guys own your hardware and operating systems. They are already killing open source 3d printers in new york for 'gun safety' purposes. Democrats and republicans crossing that aisle certainly is for the benefit of the people and not corporations who will create the software that can't print 3d guns. This, but for computers is next.

"Owning your operating system is for protecting children! We don't want them printing guns or talking to strangers online!"

Bezos said he saw this generator in the same way he sees local computing solutions today

This is hilarious, because every single facility of note, and especially datacenters has local, grid independent generators. Datacenters in particular have been noteworthy for pushing for 'off-grid' power plants to give them more control over their power and costs. In the more reachable territory, residential solar promises value by mitigating your exposure to eletrical rate changes, and in some cases combined with home energy storage, people are going off-grid. A lot of commercial interests also pad out their facilities with solar panels, because it is cheaper than sourcing entirely from the grid, and this was before the recent rate hikes inflicted by datacenter buildouts.

His analogy is bogus because he implies off-grid energy generation is a thing of the past while AWS itself is a huge driver of off-grid energy generation in a world where off-grid energy generation is actually increasing.

Over my dead body Jeff.

Yeah thats gonna be a no from me

Since the ubiquity of smartphones, PC relevancy has been on the decline, and now with the pricing out of regular people, I imagine they will eventually become a completely niche and rare thing, to the point where even renting them out won't be common or necessary. What's more concerning to me is where the internet is going. In a few decades I think it will be mainly used for banking, medical an other administrative things, with the social aspect heavily regulated and monitored, and will only be used by businesses. We've lived through a very unique time, and things are bound to change massively, so enjoy it while you can.

So that's why they are paying Microsoft to make all the computers suck.

Why should I? Actually, after reading the article, not just the headline, it left me rather worried. All available resources are being pumped into "AI" now, for the convenience of chatting with ChatGPT about everyday stuff, for creating Grok bikini deepfakes or Copilot MS Paint memeslop.

With the effect of computer hardware, like CPU/GPU, RAM and SSDs becoming unaffordable for normal users (and thus normal PCs which need those components), some day users might have no other choice than owning just a "stupid" rig of mouse, keyboard and screen with all computing happening in some "AI cloud".

Sounds to me like some top-level enshittification!

I don't buy computers from wax figures.

That's like an EU member purchasing the F-35 under Krasnov. Yep, fuck that shit.

So, what prediction did Bezos make back then, that seems particularly poignant right now? Bezos thinks that local PC hardware is antiquated, and that the future will revolve around cloud computing scenarios, where you rent your compute from companies like Amazon Web Services or Microsoft Azure.

This isn't a new idea, and it certainly predates Bezos.

I'm older now, but throughout my life there has been a pendulum swing back and forth between local compute power vs remote compute power. The price of RAM going up follows the exact same path this has gone half a dozen times already in the last 50 years. Compute power gets cheap then it gets expensive, then it gets cheap again. Bezos's statements are just the most recent example. He's no prophet. This has just happened before, and it will revert again. Rinse repeat:

• 1970s remote compute power: This couldn't really compute anything locally and required dialing into a mainframe over an analog telephone line to access the remote computing power.

• 1980s local compute power: CPUs got fast and cheap! Now you could do all your processing right on your desk without need of a central computer/mainframe

• 1990s remote compute power: Thin clients! These were underpowered desktop units that could access the compute power in a server such as Citrix Winframe/Metaframe or SunOS (for SunRay thin clients). Honorable mention for retail type units like Microsoft WebTV which was the same concept with different hardware/software.

• 2000s local compute power: This was the widespread adoption of desktop PCs with 3D graphics cards as a standard along with high power CPUs.

• 2010s remote compute power: VDI appears! This is things like VMware Horizon or Citirix Virtual Desktop along with the launch of AWS for the first time.

• 2020s local compute power: Powerful CPUs and massively fast GPUs are now now standard and affordable.

• 2030s remote compute power....in the cloud....probably

...and how should I access this cloud compute? Stick my fingers into a network socket and wiggle them?

Perfect! And after that we can rent our phones from the cloud too. Maybe our electric cars after that?

I'll host my photos on a jailbroken pregnancy test.

Amazon sucks

Citrix called, they still hold the patent

I have a linuxbox with decent hardware that i can squeeze 4 years out of still, a steamdeck, and steamframes soon. I'll be good for quite a while, long enough to ride out the AI-slop bubble.

No.

Yes rent a computer from the cloud, while your Internet is capped at a terrabyte

Cheap computer (I'm Canadian so let's say these are maple bucks) say $500, what's a rental $30 a month, so 16ish months before it's paid off.

I ran a media PC off a $300 computer for years (I can't recall exactly least 2 maybe 3). If you need more you probably don't need a cloud one, if you get a cloud one it's cheaper to buy a cheap computer every 2 years.

It may make a sense to some but I enjoy having my nas backup and separate media PC. Also if Amazon goes down you can't even access the calculator, least with no Internet there are options at home.

Literally no reason to live if you have to subscribe for air.

No reason to hold back then, this planet is not big enough for billionaires.

It never was a thing that was kept quiet..

He so damn trash

Weird. You would think that the “genius” would know that the very AI and Quantum computing his organization and other Billionaires are building out, is going to undermine anything of value that is Centralized. Really proof his genius is how to exploit others and not really the reality we are finding ourselves in. I am LOL inside as the shift back to decentralized services will be a bloodbath for Centralized anything.

amazon uplink terminal;

If China wants to win against these assholes, all they have to do is help develop open alternatives to TSML and ASML and not invade Taiwan so these assholes have to bear the brunt of the AI bubble.

this guy -- who also runs a film studio right now streaming a TV series about an adaptation of a video game of a postwar dystopia -- literally wanting to replace PCs with his own ROBCO terminals.

And the unprecedented destruction of privacy will be used to detect people who need help (read: about to become a murderer/commit suicide etc etc) and provide the required help to them, right?

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I'll go back to cooper wound nails if I have to

Why would i do this, motherfucker ?

So, he wants us to pay to suck his tit?

as someone that married a reptilian looking person(her wife with mara-o-lago face), he sure says alot.

Aren't people basically already doing this? There are lots of people who only have their phone and maybe a tablet, and for basically everything that might actually require computing power (i.e. photo editing) they end up using a web app or something.

The very idea of simply owning a screen, keyboard, and mouse, and using Windows remotely via a subscription will likely send shivers down many of your spines — but you have to consider the trends here.

You need at minimum an ethernet or wifi adapter and a processor and a GPU to decode video and push pixels to the screen. You need effectively a local PC to rent a remote PC

Isn't this what Google did with chrome os and chromebooks?

elon can't keep his mouth shut, but looks like they're all psychos...

Terry Davis was right...

Edit: For anyone that don't know : https://youtu.be/3HD43lvNvCA?t=2084 He was mentally unwell but he called it !

I'm sure he celebrates the soaring cost of DIMMs as they drive PC prices out of reach.

Boosteroid? Yes, it's great.

Amazon Luna? No, it's a joke.

As for renting a whole machine, unnecessary unless you need a server.

I already sort of do this with my gaming machine. It lives on a cloud host and I connect with a client.

It’s cheaper and more convenient than buying a new PC - especially since I’ve got three gamers in my house - and offloading graphics means I can get better battery life when playing on my laptop in my hammock.

However, if you’re more than a couple hundred miles from the data center or there’s network problems you won’t be having much fun. That’s the only reason I’d want an actual gaming machine, and even then I’d play via remote desktop from my hammock.

I think we've mostly done that already. Pretty much everything we use runs in "the cloud" and most things we use locally don't require any compute power. Pretty much all you need is a bit of RAM to run the browser.

Problem is if you want solid build quality and a nice keyboard and trackpad, etc. you can't get that without a PC with a $1000 processor shoehorned into it.

Though this is all motivated by capitalistic expansion, it's also worth noting that liberals have been trying to eliminate the dissent facilitated through online activism and information campaigns for a few years now. Ownership over our PCs means that there can always be an internet operated and monitored by us.

edit: Pretty sure some of you don't know what liberalism is.

People complaining about ram and GPU prices don't know how to make a budget.

It's just skill issue, not a plan for our technomaniac overlords to take away our technology from our hands

From a different perspective, renting a pc and having a thin client would be a lot better for the environment and cheaper for the consumer.

Sadly I don’t think that’s the goal of these companies

Working class will immediately start renting PC to show everyone how rich they are 🤣🤣